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Thursday, January 29, 2015
Digital BBQ Fork Reviews
it's half again as large as my last temp. fork. and it takes 10-15 seconds to get the reading. my last fork took about 3. but it broke and they don't make it anymore. i had to learn that when the temp bar reached the very first bar for med-rare, that's when i needed to remove the meat. anything more and it was too done. but i guess every fork has it's learning curve. so far, i like it!
Wednesday, January 28, 2015
EmpireCovers BBQ Covers 60-inch Reviews
We ordered this mid winter, based on other reviews. As soon as I lifted the box off the porch, I knew we were getting something other than what we expected. The cover is light (blew off every day, since one strap broke immediately) and it is very flimsy. It feels like it is made of medical gauze. I can only imagine the manufacturer changed the product at some point after this cover received positive reviews. We could have done better with a bed sheet and duct tape.
Saved an hour or two and some gas.
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Even though the fabric is thinner than I expected, it fits our barbecue very well. The straps from the bottom back to hook to the front are a little difficult to reach to connect, but will keep it from blowing off during a windstorm. I would recommend it to others for an inexpensive cover.Best Deals for EmpireCovers BBQ Covers 60-inch
This item is good and it works well. I would advise others to purchase this item as well. It is a fine item.Honest reviews on EmpireCovers BBQ Covers 60-inch
Well fitting, clean and clean looking. We like the breathing material. No trip to the big box store.Saved an hour or two and some gas.
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Good quality cover, fit perfectly and I would highly recommend it. It even has straps to hold it on tight.Sunday, January 11, 2015
Best Flame Broiler for CS570 - Louisiana Grills - KB-6200-1482 Deals
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List Price: $76.00
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Ok, I just have to laugh at the person that thought they were getting a $1000 smoker grill for only $76 bucks,...... Seriously!!!!!!
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Ok, I just have to laugh at the person that thought they were getting a $1000 smoker grill for only $76 bucks,...... Seriously!!!!!!
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There seems to be several problems with the description of Louisiana grills on the Amazon website. For one, the flame broiler already comes with the grill so there is no need to buy a separate one. On the louisiana grills official website, they make you buy one as an "upgrade" to the solid standard flame tamer that cannot be opened to allow direct grilling. So unless you are buying this for a louisiana grill in your possession that has the standard flame tamer, don't bother buying this product.Best Deals for Flame Broiler for CS570 - Louisiana Grills - KB-6200-1482
Rated at 0 stars. Item pictured is NOT what they are sending you!I thought from the picture I was buying a smoker grill. Price was right for end of season deals. I received a large curved metal plate which I assume goes into the grill pictured. Very disappointed. Not the fault of Amazon, a clearly misleading ad by Louisiana Grills.Monday, January 5, 2015
Best 61271(3-pack) Porcelain Cast Iron Cooking Grid Replacement Deals
Great grid replacement. Product exactly as promised for my Vermont Castings bbq grill. I would definetly recommend this to anyone who needs replacement grids.
Saturday, December 13, 2014
Best NCAA Football University of Auburn Alabama Jersey Style Grill Cover Deals
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I thought about purchasing this cover but one its white and living in alabama in the country with pollen and red clay dut it wouldnt last to long. Also, i thought about it and wondered why did they choose the away jersey?? Since this is for my home I figured the navy jersey would be more durable and more correct lol Maybe I'm over thinking it.
Matthew
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I thought about purchasing this cover but one its white and living in alabama in the country with pollen and red clay dut it wouldnt last to long. Also, i thought about it and wondered why did they choose the away jersey?? Since this is for my home I figured the navy jersey would be more durable and more correct lol Maybe I'm over thinking it.
Matthew
Friday, December 5, 2014
Reviews of Rosle 25079 Set of 6 Barbeque Stainless Steel Skewers
They do exactly what the advertisement says. A very substantial product with a handsome, professional look.They hold the kabobs firmly so you can rotate them easily. The tines want to come closer together as you add more kabobs so you have to manage that. Also, you need to wear an oven mitts to turn them as the head gets very hot.
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These are the best skewers I've ever come across. Easy to load with lots of meat, veggies, etc. No worries about burning up the bamboo. Also they clear up very easily.Best Deals for Rosle 25079 Set of 6 Barbeque Stainless Steel Skewers
I have suffered with single skewers for too long, which are impossible to turn over fully. These double pronged skewers solve the problem.Honest reviews on Rosle 25079 Set of 6 Barbeque Stainless Steel Skewers
These skewers are very high quality...allow you to turn stuff on a hot grill without having the meat/fish spin ;on the skewer, and has a handle large enough to allow handling even with oven mitts. A great product, worth every penny!Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for Rosle 25079 Set of 6 Barbeque Stainless Steel Skewers
The double prongs are great! No more shrimp or meat spinning on the skewers. If you hold the two prongs with one hand to keep them parallel while you thread the food on with your other hand it's a piece of cake! I'm very pleased so far.Monday, October 13, 2014
Best Char-Broil 68" Snug Grill Cover Deals
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Cover fits snugly and securely over my grill to protect it from the outdoor elements, so far it has held up very nicely,
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Cover fits snugly and securely over my grill to protect it from the outdoor elements, so far it has held up very nicely,
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I'm not an expert on grill covers. But this thing does what it claims. It covers your grill. I've only had it for ~6 months. I'm already satisfied with the purchase. Instead of the annoying drawstring so many grill covers have, it has an elastic band like underwear does. It has so far handled some pretty strong wind without blowing off. So again, I'm happy with it. Also, it was not expensive. That's always a plus.Best Deals for Char-Broil 68" Snug Grill Cover
This cover is a great option for maintaining the metal and plastic outside of any grill. It is expandable and cinches at the bottom to accommodate many sizes of grills. The front pocket is great for storing grill cleaning supplies such as liquid cleaner and brushes. A cover is essential for any customer who wishes to keep their grill rust free and looking new many years after purchase. Without a cover, the grill is subject to the elements. The price on this cover is great, I would much rather replace the cover than the grill each year. I would recommend this product without question.Honest reviews on Char-Broil 68" Snug Grill Cover
I WAS VERY SURPRISED OF THE QUALITY AND FIT OF COVER, AND THE LITTLE OUTSIDE POUCH WAS A VERY NICE TOUCH TO KEEP MY UTENSILS, I WOULD RECOMMEND THIS TO EVERYONE.Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for Char-Broil 68" Snug Grill Cover
After a few windy days the cover shredded and no longer coveres the grill. Not worth the money. Very cheaply made and will not last past one windy day.Thursday, October 2, 2014
Best Rosle Charcoal Kettle Grill with Stainless Steel Frame, Black Deals
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List Price: $600.00
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I must admit that I don' have a lot of experience using charcoal grills to make a true comparison since I have been using gas grills for the last many years. However this one is very well designed and easy to use. To start with the lid is hinged to the grill so you don't have to always look for a place to put it when you are working with the food. Then,take another look, the hinge is off to the side so you can open it and keep your arm safely away from the heat and flames. The grill rolls easily on its large wheels and pulls well when using its large handle.
Inside the grill there is a well designed stainless steel wire grate that actually folds for easy cleaning. The bottom flu has three positions (plus "off") for regulating air flow. The exterior is a black shiny enamel (or powdercoat) that is attractive.
So far I have cooked three great dinners that are a breeze with this (out of 3 tries).
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I must admit that I don' have a lot of experience using charcoal grills to make a true comparison since I have been using gas grills for the last many years. However this one is very well designed and easy to use. To start with the lid is hinged to the grill so you don't have to always look for a place to put it when you are working with the food. Then,take another look, the hinge is off to the side so you can open it and keep your arm safely away from the heat and flames. The grill rolls easily on its large wheels and pulls well when using its large handle.
Inside the grill there is a well designed stainless steel wire grate that actually folds for easy cleaning. The bottom flu has three positions (plus "off") for regulating air flow. The exterior is a black shiny enamel (or powdercoat) that is attractive.
So far I have cooked three great dinners that are a breeze with this (out of 3 tries).
Thursday, September 4, 2014
Review of Camco 59023 RV Propane Gauge/Leak Detector
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I bought this in December 2009 to replace a very similar gauge on a brand new propane tank on my gas grill. I installed it exactly per the included instructions, hand-tightened only. The side with the black plastic cover is screwed onto the tank threads. Then the regulator is screwed onto the outlet side of the gauge. When I opened the valve on the propane tank, the gauge correctly indicates the tank is approx 2/3 full. However, no gas was flowing into the regulator. So, I called Camco on 22-Jan-2010. I was connected with a woman named Terry who explained that I must wait at least 2 full minutes for the gas to flow into the regulator due to the latest safety feature required on all propane tanks intended to guard against overfill. Therefore, I waited approx 5 minutes. Same result, no gas flowing into the regulator. I believe the outlet side of this gauge is simply not compatible with the fitting on the regulator of my grill. Therefore, I have no choice but to return this item.
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I bought this in December 2009 to replace a very similar gauge on a brand new propane tank on my gas grill. I installed it exactly per the included instructions, hand-tightened only. The side with the black plastic cover is screwed onto the tank threads. Then the regulator is screwed onto the outlet side of the gauge. When I opened the valve on the propane tank, the gauge correctly indicates the tank is approx 2/3 full. However, no gas was flowing into the regulator. So, I called Camco on 22-Jan-2010. I was connected with a woman named Terry who explained that I must wait at least 2 full minutes for the gas to flow into the regulator due to the latest safety feature required on all propane tanks intended to guard against overfill. Therefore, I waited approx 5 minutes. Same result, no gas flowing into the regulator. I believe the outlet side of this gauge is simply not compatible with the fitting on the regulator of my grill. Therefore, I have no choice but to return this item.
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Works as advertised. Outside temperature changes the reading greatly but that was expected. The only thing is that when the tank is almost out it doesn't give a good indication of that. I started grilling and it was on the border of green and yellow and then 15 minutes later it was out. I would expect to see it in the red at first but these things aren't perfect.Best Deals for Camco 59023 RV Propane Gauge/Leak Detector
Bought this to put on the tanks of my RV so I do not run out of propane on a cold night. It seems to tell me when the tank is full and about half full and maybe even a quarter full but it goes from green to red with out stopnig in the yellow.Honest reviews on Camco 59023 RV Propane Gauge/Leak Detector
I have had several of this type gauge in the past but this particular model seems to work much better. We especially like the leak detector as my wife is not fond of propane to begin with.Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for Camco 59023 RV Propane Gauge/Leak Detector
Nice to know gas level in tank. Saves guessing and possible embarassment when grilling for friends. Expensive but worth it.Thursday, August 21, 2014
Buy 10371(4-pack) Stainless Steel Burner Replacement for Gas Grill
I received these parts very fast and there where for burners for the price of one from other suppliers. They fit very good and work fine.
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None of the "universal" kits at the big home improvement stores matched our grill. Not to mention the price and quality of those items compared to these. The only problem with these is the opening on the vent was too small and I had to use my old one and bend it a little. Other than that they worked fine.Best Deals for 10371(4-pack) Stainless Steel Burner Replacement for Gas Grill
Once the the old ones were pried off the BBQ, and holes drilled so that the new ones would fit they work very well. Be prepared for prep work.Honest reviews on 10371(4-pack) Stainless Steel Burner Replacement for Gas Grill
I was ready to get a new bbq and then looked online and found these. saved me a bunch of time and money!!!Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for 10371(4-pack) Stainless Steel Burner Replacement for Gas Grill
Last summer my brother passed his old grill to my husband and I and it sat in our garage for a year. This year we decided to get it out, clean it up and start using it, except we discovered that the old burners were completely rusted through! We were able to order these in just a few minutes at half the price that Sears wanted for them and we had them in the grill by the following weekend! Hotdogs, bbq chicken, steaks --thank you Amazon for many more tasty meals to come!Monday, July 28, 2014
Buy Char-Griller 3001 Grillin' Pro 40,800-BTU Gas Grill
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I've done plenty of research and seen many grills before picking the 'Char-Griller Pro 3001'. I think if you really want a solid grill that lasts forever, get a Weber. For me paying $700+ for a similar Weber isn't an option. You also should beware of the inexpensive stainless steel grills (anything under $400). Their not stainless, the metal is thin & flimsy and they start showing signs of rust in a matter of months. I even saw some demos with rust stains?? This shouldn't be a problem with the finish on the Char-Griller. Plus I noticed it ranked well in Consumer Reports. I picked mine up at Menards for $149.00 (on 06/26/09).
At times it was challenging to put together. The pictures and directions could've been more descriptive on which way things face when you put them together (ie: the legs). Plus the location of parts within the box. I had to find parts that I needed early in the installation that were wrapped up with things late in the installation?! Once you get it together it's pretty solid. It starts easily and heats up fast. For me in less than 5-10 min. on high the temperature gage was at 650 degrees (on a windy 70 degree day in Chicago). The grates are porcelain coated cast iron. That's a feature you want to look for in a grill. You'll see those on higher priced models. The grates have a side for 'Searing' and a side for 'Grilling'. They cleanup easily and give GREAT grill marks. Now mind you my last grill was a 12 year old 'Char-Broil' that was shot and I've only used this one twice. But from what I can tell (so far) unless you want to pay a ton for something better this is a great grill for the price.
Update: 07-27-09
It's still a great grill for the price. I have one thing I never liked and if you're coming from an older grill like me you should be aware of this. Older gas grills (5 or 10 years) had the burners right along the bottom of the grill base with a metal shield over the top. You then had 5 inches or so between the shield and the grilling grates. This would give you space for 'Lava Rock', 'Ceramic Brickets' and some wood chips if you choose. The rocks or bricks would catch grease and reduce flare ups. To keep the grill clean you change the rock out once a season or so. NONE OF THE NEW GRILLS (including the Char-Griller) are setup like this. They ALL have the burners and shields right below the grilling grates. And you have no room for anything below the burners. So you need to be sure to keep the bottom of the grill CLEAN and CLEAR of debris (drip trays too). As I stated before this grill heats fast and puts out a good flame. Well after cooking about 10 times or so I had some debris and an oily film on the bottom from cooking & basting things. Yep you guessed it, FIRE, FIRE! Luckily I caught it after just a couple minutes of cooking and shut it down and put everything out. I cleaned out the bottom turned it back on and it was fine. So be safe and keep it clean!
The drip TRAY is easy to reach (as opposed to a hole that a can hangs under) and the barrel construction also lends to the even heat of the grill.
The smoker attachment is a nice idea for those who want the flexibility and convenience of a gas grill with the option for smoke/charcoal; although I have not used it I think I will be purchasing the attachment before next Thanksgiving (nothing like a smoked turkey on the grill).
Cons: Assembly is a little bit of work and is best accomplished with two people. It is not something you want to do in a hurry and while not easy, it wasn't an overwhelming challenge either. In other words, yes, you have to do a little bit of thinking and it really helped to have another person to verify understanding and help to hold pieces. If you feel you are mechanically challenged, could be frustrating, but don't be scared away. Assembly time for two people who don't do much if any mechanical work, was about 90 leisurely minutes.
With so many nice-looking but cheaply made grills with cheap parts out there, the Char-Griller stands out with it's simple efficient design and comparatively heavy parts.
I've read alot of reviews saying that the directions are utterly useless and hard to understand. I don't know if Char-griller re-wrote the directions or what but I didn't find them difficult to follow. Maybe if you are the type that only looks at the pictures to assemble things, you might have a little prblems, are they are all in grey scale and not color, but even the picies are marked with stickers saying things like, "this side faces inside" or "this is the long wired burner tube". Sometime you might even feel alittle insulted that they tell you the burned tube has a longer wire attached because its some 4 inches longer and VERY obvious. But the directions have words besides pictures and they are quite clear on what to do and what pieces you need. Plus the screws/bolts/washers are very nicely packaged with sizes printed on both sides of the pack.
I'm not mechanically inclined by anymeans, but save your wallet some heartache and put it together yourself. all you need is one phillips head screw driver (maybe a pliers for when you attach the warming grate). But other than that its simple to assemble, eventhough it took just over two hours doing it by myself. But even the directions tell you that you need two people. Well you don't. The hardest part is getting the cart legs to stay put when your attaching the all and connecting them.
There was only one piece that I had to bend slightly to make it fit and that was the front panel. There was alittle too much bend in the top of the piece but once I bent it down about 10 degrees it fit perfectly. As for the rest of the grill, everything lined up perfectly and went together without any naughty words needing to be uttered.
This grill heats up very quickly, but then again I've never had a gas grill before so maybe everyone does, but I can get the temp to 600+ in around 5 minutes.
The one thing that I noticed is that there seems to be quite a bit of manufacturing oil residue. And it is real sticky when you putting the top and bottom grill barrels on. The directions say to run it for 15 minutes with the ild closed to get rid of it, but there is still quite a bit left. Maybe I just got an oil happy factory cutter, but I won't speculate on that.
The surface area is quite large for the over all size of the grill. Most grills seem to be wide and shallow where as this is quite deep and could be an optical illusion, but nice size for my family of four.
I'll update with more comments when I get a few meals put on this.
Over all I am very happy with the grill and my decision to assemble it myself.
The three piece grate system seems to stay in place well enough and should present a problem. They are also porcelain coated cast iron and should hold the heat nicely and be easy enough to clean. Another cleaning feature I like is the easy to reach drip pan. some people have written that it doesn't drain well, but I can't comment on that yet, but will in an update post later. The nice sized pull out pan seems large enough to not have to worry about it overflowing except in the large of cookouts doing multiple full loads.
I was very suprised at the weight of this grill for the cost. This looks and feels like a heavy charcoal grill (probably since Char-griller is more known for that type of grill). I liked it better than the shiny, "polish me every weekend" looking cookers out there and it lends itself to being rather manly in appearance as apposed to a lot of the fairy foo-foo stuff out there. The box weighed around 90 pounds and assembled with the tank on it it still sits around the same weight, so I don't think anyone short of tornado ally dwellers need worry about it blowing over, even with a cover on it.
I would have liked to be able to have those lava rocks or similar things in the bottom of the grill to help against flare ups from the food juices but there doesn't seem to be alot of room to put stuff like that in there as the heat shields are within a few inches of the grates. I remember a friends older grill have lots of room and the burners/heat shields were under all the lava rocks and it looked nice and it helped with flare-ups quite a bit, but it seems all the grills are made like this now. Hmm. I wonder why.
One thing I'd like to see changed is the thin side tray. Not so much because it feels flimsy, because it feels solid enough to hold stuff, but when you move the grill, I'd like to see something alittle more robust to grab hold of to move this 90+ pounds around with.
In closing, if you want a gas grill, don't have alot of money, want a masculine look, buy this. remember its the quality of the cook that makes a good meal and not spending alot of money on asthestics.
Anyway, I'm off to the store to buy some grilling food so I can update this later.
My price limit was $200, due to the effect of the economy on my business in the last few years. I found my Char Griller 3001 at Lowes, and brought it home fully assembled, so cannot speak to assembly problems. What finally tipped me toward the Brinkman was that it was one of the few LP grills I found that could hit upwards of 600°F in less than 10 minutes under nearly any conditions. It actually hit 650° in under 5 min. at an ambient temperature of 80° for me. The fact that this is a LP grill with no open back like almost all the others, and the very heavily constructed barrel shape with two stacks on the top, keeps the heat in the grill, where you want it.
The first thing I used the grill for, after seasoning it according to instructions, was to smoke 10 lbs of chicken leg quarters. I put a smoker box with wood chips and chunks above the left burner, and dropped a Bush's bean can over the stack on the left, to hold the smoke in better. Once the wood began smoking, I turned the left burner from high to medium. The middle burner was off during the whole cook and the right burner I kept on low. This arrangement kept the temperature around 425°. I experienced one small flare up near the back of the right burner, but there was enough room, using the grates and shelf, to move the chicken away from the flare up temporarily, and it went out quickly, once I put the lid back down. Due to only having one stack open, the flare up was more of a "smoker" than a big flame, and the quality of the chicken didn't suffer at all, like the burned pieces of chicken that I often got on other grills, where a flare up turns into huge flames instead of mostly smoke. The chicken took about 50 minutes, turning and moving the pieces as needed. It was easily as good as chicken done on my "low and slow" charcoal and wood smoker.
My next project was grilling 10 lbs of rib tips. I again used both outside burners on low to medium.... no smoker box or wood chips, but only one stack open. The rib tips spent most of their time over the middle of the grill or on the top shelf, putting each piece over a burner for long enough to get a nice sear on both sides. I maintained a temperature of 450° throughout the cook, until the rib tips were all done to an internal temperature of 189°. Once again, some minor flare ups, due tho the greasiness of some of the pieces, but they were more smoky than anything, creating no big scramble to keep the meat from burning up.
The tips turned out tender and juicy, but putting them in my smoker for three hours or more and bringing them up to the same temperature more slowly tenderizes the meat even more. Still, great results for a gas grill, when time is limited.
I ordered a 3055 grill cover from Amazon, as Lowes doesn't carry them. In the first week before the cover came, it rained three days, but there were no problems with the electronic ignition and no rust starting that I could find. As others have noted, there is a brace that keeps you from accessing the valve on the LP tank easily. I'd rather have it be functional than pretty, so I removed the little clip that holds the gas line to the left front leg of the grill, and set the tank under the left shelf on a 4" high concrete block. Other than that engineering oversight, I think this is the best grill I've ever owned.
Added 9/20/11
This grill still really rocks! I've done everything from Chicken to Spare ribs and country style ribs. Great sear, and amazingly juicy results. Short cooking time compared to any other grills I've had. The minor flare ups burn out so quickly due to the high temperature of the heat shields, that they contribute more to the flavor than burn the meat.
Make sure to clean the grill by running all burners full blast until it heats up to 600°F then turn down so it stays around 600 for a total of about 8 minutes. Once the grill cools, remember to empty the drip pan before the grease hardens. Do Not leave the grill unattended while cleaning, as if the temp goes beyond 650° before everything's all "burnt off", it will ignite..... I mean the whole thing! I did that once and had to leave it burn itself out after turning the burners off. Burned off a bit of the paint on one end right where the lid meets the base of the grill. Hi Temp black paint fixed that. Now I keep a second bean can handy, so in case it ever happens again, I can drop a can on both stacks, killing the burners and the air flow at the same time. You couldn't do that on a typical gas grill with a wide open back!
This is an edit after owning this grill for at least 10 months now.(June 6, 2012)
Every now and then you need to remove the heat reflectors, and take a big scraper or food turning blade to the inside of the bottom and scrape everything you can into the drip pan. It's rather difficult, but if you don't, the whole thing will catch fire while heating it up to 600 degrees(or more.... it gets there quickly!) to clean the grates and heat reflectors.
If I'm doing something like a whole chicken, or a brisket, I can drop cans over both stacks and turn the heat down as low as it will go. It still holds the temp at about 400 degrees, which makes it possible to do a whole brisket in just a few hours when I don't have the time to tend my charcoal and wood smoker all day long. I've never before had a grill that would maintain high temps so easily and while consuming such small amounts of gas. Once I mastered it, the meat is juicer and better tasting than ever before because it seals the goodness right in!
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I've done plenty of research and seen many grills before picking the 'Char-Griller Pro 3001'. I think if you really want a solid grill that lasts forever, get a Weber. For me paying $700+ for a similar Weber isn't an option. You also should beware of the inexpensive stainless steel grills (anything under $400). Their not stainless, the metal is thin & flimsy and they start showing signs of rust in a matter of months. I even saw some demos with rust stains?? This shouldn't be a problem with the finish on the Char-Griller. Plus I noticed it ranked well in Consumer Reports. I picked mine up at Menards for $149.00 (on 06/26/09).
At times it was challenging to put together. The pictures and directions could've been more descriptive on which way things face when you put them together (ie: the legs). Plus the location of parts within the box. I had to find parts that I needed early in the installation that were wrapped up with things late in the installation?! Once you get it together it's pretty solid. It starts easily and heats up fast. For me in less than 5-10 min. on high the temperature gage was at 650 degrees (on a windy 70 degree day in Chicago). The grates are porcelain coated cast iron. That's a feature you want to look for in a grill. You'll see those on higher priced models. The grates have a side for 'Searing' and a side for 'Grilling'. They cleanup easily and give GREAT grill marks. Now mind you my last grill was a 12 year old 'Char-Broil' that was shot and I've only used this one twice. But from what I can tell (so far) unless you want to pay a ton for something better this is a great grill for the price.
Update: 07-27-09
It's still a great grill for the price. I have one thing I never liked and if you're coming from an older grill like me you should be aware of this. Older gas grills (5 or 10 years) had the burners right along the bottom of the grill base with a metal shield over the top. You then had 5 inches or so between the shield and the grilling grates. This would give you space for 'Lava Rock', 'Ceramic Brickets' and some wood chips if you choose. The rocks or bricks would catch grease and reduce flare ups. To keep the grill clean you change the rock out once a season or so. NONE OF THE NEW GRILLS (including the Char-Griller) are setup like this. They ALL have the burners and shields right below the grilling grates. And you have no room for anything below the burners. So you need to be sure to keep the bottom of the grill CLEAN and CLEAR of debris (drip trays too). As I stated before this grill heats fast and puts out a good flame. Well after cooking about 10 times or so I had some debris and an oily film on the bottom from cooking & basting things. Yep you guessed it, FIRE, FIRE! Luckily I caught it after just a couple minutes of cooking and shut it down and put everything out. I cleaned out the bottom turned it back on and it was fine. So be safe and keep it clean!
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After lots of research settled on this grill and at under $200, nothing compares. After three months of use, looks and works like new. The cast iron construction leads to even heat, the burners work well, there are trays on both sides (one is a side burner with a flat cover), and it does a great job of grilling.The drip TRAY is easy to reach (as opposed to a hole that a can hangs under) and the barrel construction also lends to the even heat of the grill.
The smoker attachment is a nice idea for those who want the flexibility and convenience of a gas grill with the option for smoke/charcoal; although I have not used it I think I will be purchasing the attachment before next Thanksgiving (nothing like a smoked turkey on the grill).
Cons: Assembly is a little bit of work and is best accomplished with two people. It is not something you want to do in a hurry and while not easy, it wasn't an overwhelming challenge either. In other words, yes, you have to do a little bit of thinking and it really helped to have another person to verify understanding and help to hold pieces. If you feel you are mechanically challenged, could be frustrating, but don't be scared away. Assembly time for two people who don't do much if any mechanical work, was about 90 leisurely minutes.
With so many nice-looking but cheaply made grills with cheap parts out there, the Char-Griller stands out with it's simple efficient design and comparatively heavy parts.
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If you are looking for a good gas grill and you are on a budget, then the $170 for this is probably a good buy. Frankly I don't see the need for $500, $800, $2000 grills that are mostly name buying or grill envy inducing. You buy a grill to cook food not to be backyard bling. If you one of those huge backyard million dollar mansion types, then your not reaidng this anyway and move on to you Weber's and such. For us down to earth people this will suffice.I've read alot of reviews saying that the directions are utterly useless and hard to understand. I don't know if Char-griller re-wrote the directions or what but I didn't find them difficult to follow. Maybe if you are the type that only looks at the pictures to assemble things, you might have a little prblems, are they are all in grey scale and not color, but even the picies are marked with stickers saying things like, "this side faces inside" or "this is the long wired burner tube". Sometime you might even feel alittle insulted that they tell you the burned tube has a longer wire attached because its some 4 inches longer and VERY obvious. But the directions have words besides pictures and they are quite clear on what to do and what pieces you need. Plus the screws/bolts/washers are very nicely packaged with sizes printed on both sides of the pack.
I'm not mechanically inclined by anymeans, but save your wallet some heartache and put it together yourself. all you need is one phillips head screw driver (maybe a pliers for when you attach the warming grate). But other than that its simple to assemble, eventhough it took just over two hours doing it by myself. But even the directions tell you that you need two people. Well you don't. The hardest part is getting the cart legs to stay put when your attaching the all and connecting them.
There was only one piece that I had to bend slightly to make it fit and that was the front panel. There was alittle too much bend in the top of the piece but once I bent it down about 10 degrees it fit perfectly. As for the rest of the grill, everything lined up perfectly and went together without any naughty words needing to be uttered.
This grill heats up very quickly, but then again I've never had a gas grill before so maybe everyone does, but I can get the temp to 600+ in around 5 minutes.
The one thing that I noticed is that there seems to be quite a bit of manufacturing oil residue. And it is real sticky when you putting the top and bottom grill barrels on. The directions say to run it for 15 minutes with the ild closed to get rid of it, but there is still quite a bit left. Maybe I just got an oil happy factory cutter, but I won't speculate on that.
The surface area is quite large for the over all size of the grill. Most grills seem to be wide and shallow where as this is quite deep and could be an optical illusion, but nice size for my family of four.
I'll update with more comments when I get a few meals put on this.
Over all I am very happy with the grill and my decision to assemble it myself.
The three piece grate system seems to stay in place well enough and should present a problem. They are also porcelain coated cast iron and should hold the heat nicely and be easy enough to clean. Another cleaning feature I like is the easy to reach drip pan. some people have written that it doesn't drain well, but I can't comment on that yet, but will in an update post later. The nice sized pull out pan seems large enough to not have to worry about it overflowing except in the large of cookouts doing multiple full loads.
I was very suprised at the weight of this grill for the cost. This looks and feels like a heavy charcoal grill (probably since Char-griller is more known for that type of grill). I liked it better than the shiny, "polish me every weekend" looking cookers out there and it lends itself to being rather manly in appearance as apposed to a lot of the fairy foo-foo stuff out there. The box weighed around 90 pounds and assembled with the tank on it it still sits around the same weight, so I don't think anyone short of tornado ally dwellers need worry about it blowing over, even with a cover on it.
I would have liked to be able to have those lava rocks or similar things in the bottom of the grill to help against flare ups from the food juices but there doesn't seem to be alot of room to put stuff like that in there as the heat shields are within a few inches of the grates. I remember a friends older grill have lots of room and the burners/heat shields were under all the lava rocks and it looked nice and it helped with flare-ups quite a bit, but it seems all the grills are made like this now. Hmm. I wonder why.
One thing I'd like to see changed is the thin side tray. Not so much because it feels flimsy, because it feels solid enough to hold stuff, but when you move the grill, I'd like to see something alittle more robust to grab hold of to move this 90+ pounds around with.
In closing, if you want a gas grill, don't have alot of money, want a masculine look, buy this. remember its the quality of the cook that makes a good meal and not spending alot of money on asthestics.
Anyway, I'm off to the store to buy some grilling food so I can update this later.
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I have grilled on gas grills for close to 40 years and decided not to rebuild the Brinkman I had owned for about 10 years again. I was never all that happy with it anyway. I looked at lots of Grills and read all the reviews I could find.My price limit was $200, due to the effect of the economy on my business in the last few years. I found my Char Griller 3001 at Lowes, and brought it home fully assembled, so cannot speak to assembly problems. What finally tipped me toward the Brinkman was that it was one of the few LP grills I found that could hit upwards of 600°F in less than 10 minutes under nearly any conditions. It actually hit 650° in under 5 min. at an ambient temperature of 80° for me. The fact that this is a LP grill with no open back like almost all the others, and the very heavily constructed barrel shape with two stacks on the top, keeps the heat in the grill, where you want it.
The first thing I used the grill for, after seasoning it according to instructions, was to smoke 10 lbs of chicken leg quarters. I put a smoker box with wood chips and chunks above the left burner, and dropped a Bush's bean can over the stack on the left, to hold the smoke in better. Once the wood began smoking, I turned the left burner from high to medium. The middle burner was off during the whole cook and the right burner I kept on low. This arrangement kept the temperature around 425°. I experienced one small flare up near the back of the right burner, but there was enough room, using the grates and shelf, to move the chicken away from the flare up temporarily, and it went out quickly, once I put the lid back down. Due to only having one stack open, the flare up was more of a "smoker" than a big flame, and the quality of the chicken didn't suffer at all, like the burned pieces of chicken that I often got on other grills, where a flare up turns into huge flames instead of mostly smoke. The chicken took about 50 minutes, turning and moving the pieces as needed. It was easily as good as chicken done on my "low and slow" charcoal and wood smoker.
My next project was grilling 10 lbs of rib tips. I again used both outside burners on low to medium.... no smoker box or wood chips, but only one stack open. The rib tips spent most of their time over the middle of the grill or on the top shelf, putting each piece over a burner for long enough to get a nice sear on both sides. I maintained a temperature of 450° throughout the cook, until the rib tips were all done to an internal temperature of 189°. Once again, some minor flare ups, due tho the greasiness of some of the pieces, but they were more smoky than anything, creating no big scramble to keep the meat from burning up.
The tips turned out tender and juicy, but putting them in my smoker for three hours or more and bringing them up to the same temperature more slowly tenderizes the meat even more. Still, great results for a gas grill, when time is limited.
I ordered a 3055 grill cover from Amazon, as Lowes doesn't carry them. In the first week before the cover came, it rained three days, but there were no problems with the electronic ignition and no rust starting that I could find. As others have noted, there is a brace that keeps you from accessing the valve on the LP tank easily. I'd rather have it be functional than pretty, so I removed the little clip that holds the gas line to the left front leg of the grill, and set the tank under the left shelf on a 4" high concrete block. Other than that engineering oversight, I think this is the best grill I've ever owned.
Added 9/20/11
This grill still really rocks! I've done everything from Chicken to Spare ribs and country style ribs. Great sear, and amazingly juicy results. Short cooking time compared to any other grills I've had. The minor flare ups burn out so quickly due to the high temperature of the heat shields, that they contribute more to the flavor than burn the meat.
Make sure to clean the grill by running all burners full blast until it heats up to 600°F then turn down so it stays around 600 for a total of about 8 minutes. Once the grill cools, remember to empty the drip pan before the grease hardens. Do Not leave the grill unattended while cleaning, as if the temp goes beyond 650° before everything's all "burnt off", it will ignite..... I mean the whole thing! I did that once and had to leave it burn itself out after turning the burners off. Burned off a bit of the paint on one end right where the lid meets the base of the grill. Hi Temp black paint fixed that. Now I keep a second bean can handy, so in case it ever happens again, I can drop a can on both stacks, killing the burners and the air flow at the same time. You couldn't do that on a typical gas grill with a wide open back!
This is an edit after owning this grill for at least 10 months now.(June 6, 2012)
Every now and then you need to remove the heat reflectors, and take a big scraper or food turning blade to the inside of the bottom and scrape everything you can into the drip pan. It's rather difficult, but if you don't, the whole thing will catch fire while heating it up to 600 degrees(or more.... it gets there quickly!) to clean the grates and heat reflectors.
If I'm doing something like a whole chicken, or a brisket, I can drop cans over both stacks and turn the heat down as low as it will go. It still holds the temp at about 400 degrees, which makes it possible to do a whole brisket in just a few hours when I don't have the time to tend my charcoal and wood smoker all day long. I've never before had a grill that would maintain high temps so easily and while consuming such small amounts of gas. Once I mastered it, the meat is juicer and better tasting than ever before because it seals the goodness right in!
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Originally bought from Lowes. Had no trouble assembly, but instructions were not good. Having assembled a few grills in the past sort of know how things went together. The grill cooked well and everything was easy to regulate etc. The sheet metal that formed the base was bent in one area but I made it work...this metal was very thin and it showed it when the full propane tank was put on it. The side burner almost useless; it seemed like the vertical distance between the burner and grate there was too much and even on high it was hard to get consistently hot enough. Had a lot of flare ups with this grill even with temp medium or below with burgers, etc(sometimes pretty serious ones,as in having to remove all food out of there as it was a raging inferno inside) and you have to pay VERY close attention to this. The grill is difficult to clean. the area under the burners is hard to get to and keep scraped out...the whole grill nearly burned up once because of a flame-up there, and the stuff doesn't drain out of there nearly as well as it should but will just pool there over time. After three years, the brackets holding the drip pan have rusted away and the brackets holding the flavorizing bars have rusted away and the flavorizers themselves are rusting away. this grill kept covered the entire time. the burners themselves have held up but look like they could be replaced easily by the standard tube burner replacement seen for 15 bucks or so at wally or HD. sadly, going to have to toss the grill because of the rust. It was covered, but I do live in a humid climate. no serious complaint, i did not pay much for this and did not expect to get very many years out of it. This grill lasted for 3 years under a stored covered patio, but wheeled outside to cook, but has to be retired due to severe rust....the flavorizers now just sit on the burners themselves(now making grill unusable) due to the brackets that once held them about an inch over the burners are gone from rust and the drip pan fell off due to rusting brackets too. I have considered drilling holes and putting in some stainless or brass nuts and bolts etc to try to serve as holders, but nah, the difficulty cleaning and maintaining under the burners and the serious flame-up problems I've had cooking burgers on this have made me tired of fooling with it and now am looking elsewhere. I will not buy another one.Wednesday, July 2, 2014
Buy Charcoal Companion Porcelain Wood Chips Smoker Box
It's not like I'm reviewing a television or stereo receiver. It's a metal box. So far it's not rusted, caught on fire, poked my eye out, attacked my family, or killed my house plants. As such, it meets all of my metal box requirements.
Definitely not for some one who thinks they are getting a smoker
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I wanted something for my existing gas grill. Some chips and away you go.Definitely not for some one who thinks they are getting a smoker
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Cheap Music City Metals 08500 Ceramic Electrode Replacement for Select
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I want to support companies who make products and employ workers here in the USA when I can. After a considerable amount of searching and comparison shopping, I was glad to find that Music City Metals had all the parts I needed and the parts were made in the USA! Even though the cost totaled about 2x the other vendors selling foriegn made parts, remembering the pain of being unemployed for 2 years, I felt it was worth the added expense to promote USA jobs. I was sorely disappointed when I received my order and found ALL of the products were either made in Taiwan or China. If I could find this part from another company I'd be sending it back with the rest of my fraudulent parts! It angers and saddens me that American companies would falsely represent products as "Made in USA" when they infact come from Taiwan or China. Music City Metals, are they Americans at heart or just money hungry, no conscience liars?
With my grill I did have to drill new holes to mount the electrodes as they didn't line up with the factory holes. Fortunately the mounting bracket covered the factory holes, so I didn't have to worry about fire escaping the burner area.
The factory electrodes had a protective cover, woven from a fire-resistant material, to cover the connection of the igniter wire to the electrode. The replacement electrodes do not come with this material so you will have to re-use your existing covers.
As long as you don't mind a little do-it-yourself work to fit your application, this should work well for you.
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I want to support companies who make products and employ workers here in the USA when I can. After a considerable amount of searching and comparison shopping, I was glad to find that Music City Metals had all the parts I needed and the parts were made in the USA! Even though the cost totaled about 2x the other vendors selling foriegn made parts, remembering the pain of being unemployed for 2 years, I felt it was worth the added expense to promote USA jobs. I was sorely disappointed when I received my order and found ALL of the products were either made in Taiwan or China. If I could find this part from another company I'd be sending it back with the rest of my fraudulent parts! It angers and saddens me that American companies would falsely represent products as "Made in USA" when they infact come from Taiwan or China. Music City Metals, are they Americans at heart or just money hungry, no conscience liars?
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I purchased 3 of these electrode replacements for my Brinkmann Pro 2700 Series with 6 burners. The replacement was a perfect fit for the center electrode. I did have to cut the metal channel on the two outer electrodes as the distance between burners wasn't as large as the center. Thanks to other reviews here on Amazon, I was expecting this. I used the old, rusted out channels as templates and with the help of my Dremel tool had the new channels cut to fit in about 10 minutes.With my grill I did have to drill new holes to mount the electrodes as they didn't line up with the factory holes. Fortunately the mounting bracket covered the factory holes, so I didn't have to worry about fire escaping the burner area.
The factory electrodes had a protective cover, woven from a fire-resistant material, to cover the connection of the igniter wire to the electrode. The replacement electrodes do not come with this material so you will have to re-use your existing covers.
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Exact replacements are no longer available for my grill. Had to cut about an inch off of each end with my Dremel tool. It now fits exactly and works like a charm. Grill now starts like new !!!Honest reviews on Music City Metals 08500 Ceramic Electrode Replacement for Select
Works fine. Not sure how long will hold up. Original ones only lasted 2 years. These should last as long. Wish they. Made ones that were more heavy duty.Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for Music City Metals 08500 Ceramic Electrode Replacement for Select
Exactly as ordered and works great! Order with confidence as they know what they are doing. replaces the exact starter part. Just grind off the old screw and install the new starter.Tuesday, May 27, 2014
Discount Char-Broil Offset Smoker American Gourmet Deluxe Charcoal Grill
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This is an entry-level smoker. To make it work you will need to do the web research and build a baffle, add thermometers at grill level (or preferably get a digital dual thermometer), build a charcoal basket out of expanded steel and extend the chimney. For me these were all fun projects and I can get it to maintain 200-250 degrees and have turned out great ribs and pork shoulders. Be forewarned that it will start to rust the moment you buy it and non tinkerers may not enjoy all the fuss.
Before I moved halfway across the country, I had a basic Weber charcoal grill which I absolutely loved and did a wonderful job of cooking my food. I had that grille for over 8 years and when I moved, I gave it to a friend and the grill still looked pretty new despite heavy use; no rust, nice paint, etc.
Since I moved into a much bigger house and planned on entertaining, I wanted a new grill that had much more real-estate to cook food for more people at once. I also in the last couple of years had gotten into slow cooking with indirect heat and this grill seemed like an ideal solution. Here is a recount of my experience with it so far:
Unpacking and Setup:
The box was so heavy that my wife couldn't even move it into the garage. Fortunately, it wasn't raining outside and the weight seemed rather reassuring to me. I like heavy stuff for cooking because it usually means good things for even heat distribution and retention. It took me about an hour to setup the grill with some hand tools and a power drill. The instructions are very tricky and you have to pay attention to the types of bolts being called for in each step. Some of the descriptions are very similar and you can accidentally use the wrong bolt and then have to take half the stuff apart in order to get the right bolts in the right place. Overall, the setup wasn't too tricky although I tend to be on the "handy" side of the curve when it comes to projects. It would definitely be faster with a second person helping out; particularly with the lid.
Initial Impressions:
I was surprised to see that there is absolutely no insulation anywhere on this grille. For it's size, this didn't bode well particularly considering that the smoke box is offset so much. I had trouble imagining how you could effectively cook meat on the right side of the grille with indirect heat in the smoker... turns out I was right... but more on that later. The lack of insulation around the seams of the assembly left big gaps all around the side of the grille. The wheels were flimsy and didn't feel very sturdy when rolling the rather heavy grill over gravel and uneven surfaces.
Cooking:
The first time I fired up the grille, I cooked three 5lb pork butts on indirect heat for about 6 hours. I used applewood chunks in the smoker box along with lump charcoal which I was periodically refreshing to keep the heat up. The chimney on this thing is relatively useless as the entire grill leaks heat/smoke like a sieve. Smoke was pouring out from under the lid, the back seam, and even the place where the smoker bolts to the main grill assembly. This made it very hard to keep a good temperature in the grill; if I opened up the air intake more, it would get too hot but if I tried to choke out the fire a little and take down the temperature, it would either drop too low or suck in air through all the gaps in the sides. The heat was also very uneven and at times I measured a 100 degree gradient from the left side of the grille to the right. After two hours on the grille, the left-most butt was cooking too fast and the right one was still largely raw. In the end, I was able to salvage it by putting more coals in the main grill area and keeping a close eye on the heat. The thermometer built into the grill is functionally useless.
The Aftermath:
As many other reviews have noted, after just my first use all the paint bubbled and peeled off the bottom half of the smoker box and a few weeks later, there is already noticeable rust. The grate in the smoker also deformed significantly from the heat. After subsequent uses with direct heat, the grate that holds the charcoal has also deformed in the main grille. The adjustable tray that lets you raise and lower the charcoal in the main grill assembly is a nice idea but poorly implemented. It allows a large number of coals to fall off the sides and under the tray and also doesn't provide for good air flow. I was able to get much higher cooking temperatures on my simple Weber grill. As an example, I used to stir fry food on my weber in a hammered steel wok because I could get much higher temps than my stove and didn't have to worry about the smoke. I was not able to do so on this grill because the temperature was too low and all my food came out soggy because of the lack of heat.
Final Verdict:
Some people might look at this grill and think it looks like a great value because of its low price, cheap (or free) shipping, and relatively large cooking area. It is not a value; there is no bargain to be had here. You are getting exactly what you paid for, a bargain basement grill for a bargain basement price. Either get a smaller Weber style grill for about the same price or alternately, spend more money and get something that will perform better and hold up to the elements longer.
But here's a modification I did to mine: Take the main cooking chamber ash pan, remove the drop in grate and flip the pan upside down to function as a baffle. Put two screws just above the fire pit inlet into the cooking chamber to hold the left side of the baffle at or just above the inlet hole, and let the right side of the baffle rest on the bottom of the pit so it slopes down toward the right. Drill holes in the baffle with a 3/8" or 1/2" drill bit from the middle and to the right with the hole spacing getting less (i.e. more holes) as you move farther toward the right. My spacing is a row of 4 holes at about 2" spacing on the far right and a row of four holes at a spacing of about 4" (to the next row) toward the middle, and no holes left of the midpoint (though you could put a few if you want, just limit them). This mod by itself will serve to send the heat from the firebox toward the right very nicely.
I also take the small size disposable aluminum pan and cut in half and rest a half in the gap between baffle and front as well as between baffle and back of grill on the far left side closest to the fire pit. Fill each half with water which helps to even out the firebox heat, but it also is good to have moisture in your smoker anyway.
The last thing I did was take an empty beer can and cut the top and bottom off and insert into the smoke stack from the bottom leaving as much protruding down as you can and clear the top swing rack. If you take the swing rack off, you can extend the stack down really far which would be a good thing, but I like having the swing rack, so mine only protrudes down about an inch. This serves to keep the smoke (which likes to rise up as we all know) in the cooking chamber for a bit longer (since it has to build from the top down before it gets out, as opposed to rising to the top of the lid and immediately escaping if no protrusion).
The above modification costs about $1 (cost of a beer and a disposable aluminum pan) and your time (mostly for drilling). But my temps between left and right vary by no more than 10-20 degrees most of the time and quite often, the right side can be hotter than the left, indicating good movement of the heat from the firebox. I've had the firebox at over 700 deg (that's the other thing i added a magnetized wood stove thermometer, but not required), while the cooking chamber is sitting at a nice 250 deg all across the grilling surface (also added two temp gauges to the smoking chamber, one on the right, one on the left to get actual temps, not just warm, ideal, and hot like the factory gauge).
Anyway, for those of us that don't want to spend thousands on a high quality smoker, this mod works great! Only thing left is a lot of patients while cooking and a few practice runs to refine your skills. I did two 11 lb briskets last week and they came out phenominal! Literally could have given the pro's on pitmasters a run for their money. I share the above, because I think anyone should be able to bbq outstanding meat on a cheap bbq grill without dropping big bucks! Good luck!
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*** Update -9/10/2012 -The grill has all but given up the ghost. It is completely rusting to pieces despite being protected from the elements when not in use. The tray which holds the coals melted under the heat of repeated uses and bowed in the middle so that it can no longer be adjusted. There is a hole that has rusted through the bottom of the smoker box. This is all within less than a year of use (I probably cooked on it about 20 times since purchasing it). Words can not begin to explain how disappointed i am in this purchase; I will never buy a char-broil product again -not even one of their gas grilles -after my positively awful experience with this grille ***Before I moved halfway across the country, I had a basic Weber charcoal grill which I absolutely loved and did a wonderful job of cooking my food. I had that grille for over 8 years and when I moved, I gave it to a friend and the grill still looked pretty new despite heavy use; no rust, nice paint, etc.
Since I moved into a much bigger house and planned on entertaining, I wanted a new grill that had much more real-estate to cook food for more people at once. I also in the last couple of years had gotten into slow cooking with indirect heat and this grill seemed like an ideal solution. Here is a recount of my experience with it so far:
Unpacking and Setup:
The box was so heavy that my wife couldn't even move it into the garage. Fortunately, it wasn't raining outside and the weight seemed rather reassuring to me. I like heavy stuff for cooking because it usually means good things for even heat distribution and retention. It took me about an hour to setup the grill with some hand tools and a power drill. The instructions are very tricky and you have to pay attention to the types of bolts being called for in each step. Some of the descriptions are very similar and you can accidentally use the wrong bolt and then have to take half the stuff apart in order to get the right bolts in the right place. Overall, the setup wasn't too tricky although I tend to be on the "handy" side of the curve when it comes to projects. It would definitely be faster with a second person helping out; particularly with the lid.
Initial Impressions:
I was surprised to see that there is absolutely no insulation anywhere on this grille. For it's size, this didn't bode well particularly considering that the smoke box is offset so much. I had trouble imagining how you could effectively cook meat on the right side of the grille with indirect heat in the smoker... turns out I was right... but more on that later. The lack of insulation around the seams of the assembly left big gaps all around the side of the grille. The wheels were flimsy and didn't feel very sturdy when rolling the rather heavy grill over gravel and uneven surfaces.
Cooking:
The first time I fired up the grille, I cooked three 5lb pork butts on indirect heat for about 6 hours. I used applewood chunks in the smoker box along with lump charcoal which I was periodically refreshing to keep the heat up. The chimney on this thing is relatively useless as the entire grill leaks heat/smoke like a sieve. Smoke was pouring out from under the lid, the back seam, and even the place where the smoker bolts to the main grill assembly. This made it very hard to keep a good temperature in the grill; if I opened up the air intake more, it would get too hot but if I tried to choke out the fire a little and take down the temperature, it would either drop too low or suck in air through all the gaps in the sides. The heat was also very uneven and at times I measured a 100 degree gradient from the left side of the grille to the right. After two hours on the grille, the left-most butt was cooking too fast and the right one was still largely raw. In the end, I was able to salvage it by putting more coals in the main grill area and keeping a close eye on the heat. The thermometer built into the grill is functionally useless.
The Aftermath:
As many other reviews have noted, after just my first use all the paint bubbled and peeled off the bottom half of the smoker box and a few weeks later, there is already noticeable rust. The grate in the smoker also deformed significantly from the heat. After subsequent uses with direct heat, the grate that holds the charcoal has also deformed in the main grille. The adjustable tray that lets you raise and lower the charcoal in the main grill assembly is a nice idea but poorly implemented. It allows a large number of coals to fall off the sides and under the tray and also doesn't provide for good air flow. I was able to get much higher cooking temperatures on my simple Weber grill. As an example, I used to stir fry food on my weber in a hammered steel wok because I could get much higher temps than my stove and didn't have to worry about the smoke. I was not able to do so on this grill because the temperature was too low and all my food came out soggy because of the lack of heat.
Final Verdict:
Some people might look at this grill and think it looks like a great value because of its low price, cheap (or free) shipping, and relatively large cooking area. It is not a value; there is no bargain to be had here. You are getting exactly what you paid for, a bargain basement grill for a bargain basement price. Either get a smaller Weber style grill for about the same price or alternately, spend more money and get something that will perform better and hold up to the elements longer.
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....if you make a few modifications to it! This thing is well made, but pretty much sucks right out of the box as a smoker unless you only cook on the far right hand side.But here's a modification I did to mine: Take the main cooking chamber ash pan, remove the drop in grate and flip the pan upside down to function as a baffle. Put two screws just above the fire pit inlet into the cooking chamber to hold the left side of the baffle at or just above the inlet hole, and let the right side of the baffle rest on the bottom of the pit so it slopes down toward the right. Drill holes in the baffle with a 3/8" or 1/2" drill bit from the middle and to the right with the hole spacing getting less (i.e. more holes) as you move farther toward the right. My spacing is a row of 4 holes at about 2" spacing on the far right and a row of four holes at a spacing of about 4" (to the next row) toward the middle, and no holes left of the midpoint (though you could put a few if you want, just limit them). This mod by itself will serve to send the heat from the firebox toward the right very nicely.
I also take the small size disposable aluminum pan and cut in half and rest a half in the gap between baffle and front as well as between baffle and back of grill on the far left side closest to the fire pit. Fill each half with water which helps to even out the firebox heat, but it also is good to have moisture in your smoker anyway.
The last thing I did was take an empty beer can and cut the top and bottom off and insert into the smoke stack from the bottom leaving as much protruding down as you can and clear the top swing rack. If you take the swing rack off, you can extend the stack down really far which would be a good thing, but I like having the swing rack, so mine only protrudes down about an inch. This serves to keep the smoke (which likes to rise up as we all know) in the cooking chamber for a bit longer (since it has to build from the top down before it gets out, as opposed to rising to the top of the lid and immediately escaping if no protrusion).
The above modification costs about $1 (cost of a beer and a disposable aluminum pan) and your time (mostly for drilling). But my temps between left and right vary by no more than 10-20 degrees most of the time and quite often, the right side can be hotter than the left, indicating good movement of the heat from the firebox. I've had the firebox at over 700 deg (that's the other thing i added a magnetized wood stove thermometer, but not required), while the cooking chamber is sitting at a nice 250 deg all across the grilling surface (also added two temp gauges to the smoking chamber, one on the right, one on the left to get actual temps, not just warm, ideal, and hot like the factory gauge).
Anyway, for those of us that don't want to spend thousands on a high quality smoker, this mod works great! Only thing left is a lot of patients while cooking and a few practice runs to refine your skills. I did two 11 lb briskets last week and they came out phenominal! Literally could have given the pro's on pitmasters a run for their money. I share the above, because I think anyone should be able to bbq outstanding meat on a cheap bbq grill without dropping big bucks! Good luck!
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Easy to put together and worked like a charm. Smoked (w/mesquite) a couple of steaks, chicken breasts, three trout and 4 potatoes for one hour in the ideal range. All turned out very good. I didn't like the sticky stuff on the inside. Hard to clean off. I used several pieces of XXX steel wool with dish soap and warm water to get it out before use.Find helpful customer reviews and review ratings for Char-Broil Offset Smoker American Gourmet Deluxe Charcoal Grill
I loved this grill/smoker while it lasted which was about a year. When not in use we kept it covered even though living in the south there is no chance of snow. It was easy to put together and the meats I smoked on it came out fine but a year is not a long enough time for a grill that costs this much to last. I have smaller grills that are left outside not covered up and they have lasted more than five years with no signs of rust. The small chamber is not able to be used anymore as the bottom rusted completely away, the larger top grill is still somewhat useable but it too is showing signs of rust through. I think the metal on this particular smoker was somehow very inferior and when we go looking for another smoker we will look at different companies products, seems this companies are just too inferior.
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