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I bought one of these a few months ago and have been using it to a moderate level of satisfaction. I have tried it with iPhone, iPod touch, and my wife's iPad. Due to the awful battery life of the iPhone and iPod touch, I primarily use it with the iPad. I use it with two probes to monitor the temperature of a chosen cut of meat and the internal temperature of my Primo XL smoker.

This product has so much potential but I'm only giving it 3 stars. Why? Well, for one thing, the build quality is a little bit suspect. I have a white unit, and the plastic housing doesn't feel very tough or rugged at all. I wouldn't want to see the unit take a fall onto a hard floor the plastic has a flimsy, almost brittle feel to it. While I would like it to be more rugged, it's not my primary concern. My biggest concern/complaint is that so far, the iGrill is ONLY compatible with their own homegrown IOS iGrill app. The app itself is okay and provides some basic functionality, and is generally fine for short duration cooks, but when I am doing "low and slow" cooks (of up to 30 hour duration), I need a more robust app with a few more features.

1) The iPad app just closes on its own periodically. This means you lose all the data that's been collected on the temperature trendlines.

2) There is no way to log the data to a file. I'd love to have the app just pump it into a csv file or even "to the cloud" in google docs. When I am cooking new things on the smoker, it's great to be able to go back and see exactly how long it took to cook items and how it correlated to the grill temp

3) There is a target temperature alarm that you can set independently for both probes, but when I leave the smoker going all day long or overnight, I'd love to be able to have a LOW temp alert an alarm that alerts me if the grill temp dips too low.

4) This is one of the things I hate about IOS, but this app won't operate in the background, so if you're using your iPad/iPhone/iPod touch to monitor a long cook, you can't really use that device for any other apps without losing your temperature data. Of course, when the app crashes on its own like it does, it doesn't much matter.

Honestly I would forget about those app shortcomings if there were a full featured app available for Mac OSX and Windows 7. Most laptops have bluetooth adapters and you can get a cheap USB bluetooth adapter for a desktop computer for less than $10. I hope iDevices strongly considers doing this or at the very least releasing an SDK or API so independent developers can create their own apps to communicate with the iGrill. If that happens I would give the iGrill a bump to 4.5 stars. (To reach 5 stars it still needs to be more rugged).

Just a few other notes

1) battery life seems pretty good. 4 fresh batteries seem to go for at least 50-60 hours of use.

2) the display on the device is nice for a quick temp check when your wife confiscates her iPad, but it can be difficult to read in bright light, at least on the unit like mine with the white plastic housing.

3) i bought my iGrill at the apple store because I'm impatient and didn't want to wait weeks to order one online. Unfortunately it's only sold with a single probe at the Apple Store. I ordered a spare probe directly from iDevices but they rip you off on shipping and you end up paying around $30 for the 2nd probe. The probes seem accurate but like the iGrill itself, I am a little suspicious of the durability the wire lead is quite thin, so $30 is a ripoff. It's better to buy the bundle that includes 2 probes with the base unit.

4) I don't expect the white housing to hold up very well over time. If the Apple Store had it in black, I definitely would have purchased the black one. That white plastic gets dirty easily and I'm pretty certain it will yellow as it ages.

UPDATE August 11, 2011:

It's been a few months since I wrote my initial review above, and coincidentally, (almost as if on cue) an updated version of the iGrill app came out within a few days of that first review being released. Much to my delight, a lot of features were added to the new version 2.0 app, including items #2 and #3 in the list above. Unfortunately, there are still some glitches. I have not been able to get the CSV file function to work at all it just freezes and crashes the app. The pdf function works, but for very long cooks, the scaling on the graph is messed up so that the labels on the x-axis all overlap each other, making them completely illegible. The updated app seems to be a bit more stable I have witnessed a few lockups and freezes here and there but the last 2 long cooks I've done, it didn't crash at all. I had a few issues where it wouldn't link up with the outdoor unit for several minutes, or it would launch and then close immediately, but I think I have it figured out now. Basically, launch the app and turn on the iGrill device as soon as the app loads. If it doesn't display a temperature right away, just wait a few minutes and it will show up. Another glitch I've found that impacts the device's usefulness is if one of the probes is over 125F when you turn the iGrill on, it seems to lock everything up. This happened once when the iGrill app crashed in the middle of a cook, and in an effort to get everything going again, I pulled the batteries out of the iGrill device. When I replaced them and turned the iGrill on, the alarm sounded immediately and the iGrill app couldn't connect, so eventually I figured out I had to remove the probes from the food in the grill to get it restarted. It was quite a frustrating ordeal.

I hate throwing away alkaline batteries so I use rechargeable AAs in almost everything. The iGrill works pretty well with the NiMh batteries that I have, but the "low battery" threshold in the iGrill app should be lowered. Due to the slightly lower voltage of rechargeable AAs, the iGrill erroneously thinks the batteries are running out of juice and it throws false warnings. It will show up within minutes after putting in a freshly charged set of AAs, but then the iGrill works fine for a good 40-60 hours even though it thinks the batteries are low.

Regarding probe accuracy, mine seem to be pretty accurate. I tested both of the probes that I have and both of them read within 1 degree of each other across a wide range of temps. I have tested them against a digital J/K thermometer and the readings are within 1-2 degrees across the range of tested temps, so I think these are accurate enough for cooking. The wires are braided metal but they tangle easily and compared to the probes on my other meat thermometers, they seem rather fragile, so I try to be careful with them when wrapping or unwrapping the leads for storage.

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My Williams Sonoma probe thermo just stopped working. So in my search I came across the IGrill and saw some pretty weak reviews. I don't take much stock in most reviews as most are just upset buyers that don't take the time to work out minor kinks in a new product. So on my own judgement and knowing that the apple store sells these units, I bought one. Apple is pretty good about not selling products that don't uphold their high standards of quality.

My use...

Large Big Green Egg

IPad 2

Quality

seems to be good.

Yes, it's plastic, but seems to be durable

Meat Probes

Temps are Accurate

Length could be a little longer

Ambient temp Probe

Very accurate

Comes with clip to mount through dome.

I used at grate level and is very accurate

Bought an alligator clip for the grate.

App (ver. 2 new app)

Works good

MUST turn igrill on FIRST then turn on App.

MUST go into settings and adjust auto shut off to NEVER

Needs Future upgrades

Alarm for LOW temp

Fix little crashing bugs

Fix sleep mode

Remove the manual style timer, give option for digital timer.

Add ability to name the probe like in the first APP.

Open up to other app developers to create new and cool apps

Multiple device support.

Create android app...you could get additional sales!!

Would I recommend this?

YES

Is it a little pricey?

YES

Is it really cool?

YES

Does it works as stated?

YES

Is there room for improvement?

YES

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Despite the mediocre reviews, I really wanted to have a good experience the iGrill. I do a lot of BBQ on a Weber Smokey Mountain, and a wireless thermometer is invaluable. My existing wireless is a PITA to sync and keep synced, so when I saw the iGrill's bluetooth capabilities, I thought, "brilliant"!

Well, it would be brilliant except for the apparent faulty probe. I am attempting to smoke a beef brisket using the iGrill and noticed the meat's temp jumping to over 145 degrees in an hour. Given my smoker's temp was only at 250, I suspected an issue.

After some troubleshooting, I observed the following:

A. The probe's temp wildly fluctuating depending on how the probe connector was positioned to the base unit.

B. Even when "settled", the probe shows a temperature consistently 10-15 degrees above that of my trusty Pyrex probe thermometer.

I've emailed iGrill to request a probe replacement, but do not expect to hear from them for at least a day.

If I get a replacement probe that works, I will update this review, but at this point, I simply cannot recommend the iGrill.

EDIT: As I indicated in a reply to a comment, I did receive a replacement probe from the vendor. However, that probe only lasted two months before failing in the same manner. iDevices needs to figure out what is wrong with their probe manufacturing process, because something is not working.

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I saw this advertised somewhere and went on here to buy it, then I saw the reviews and it scared me off. Apparently my wife noticed it too but didn't care in desperate need for a father's day gift. Having read the previews reviews I was a bit hesitant to use it, but it's been working pretty good.

Range: It's Bluetooth, it is not designed to go far and through thick walls, so for me that means having the device in line of sight on the deck, about 20 feet from the kitchen window, while the iPad rests on the rim of the window inside. That way I can prep inside and keep an eye on the temperature. I tried a bit further and it wouldn't work.

Connectivity: It connects pretty well. If you turn on the device first and then open the app, it sees the device pretty much right away. If you have the app already open and turn on the device, it seems like it can take up to 10 seconds. That's enough time to get upset about it not working and start closing apps, switching the device on and off, and fiddle with Bluetooth settings. Some patience and it works fine. One thing I noticed is that every time you pair the item with the Bluetooth device, it will prompt you that there is a matching app available and then links to an app that doesn't exist. There must be some kind of identifier issue, between the device and the software in the app store.

Accuracy: I can not complain at all, we have enjoyed moist chicken and steak. Yesterday I made a roast in the stove and I used the iGrill. After 45 minutes it told me the desired temperature was achieved, which was 15 minutes earlier than I expected. I blew off the iGrill insisting on the 1 hour cook time, well, it was too done and the iGrill was in fact right on the money. I definitely trust the iGrill.

App: The app is beautiful, intuitive and very functional. Actually it was just recently completely redesigned. One of my favorite features is that it estimates when the final temperature will be achieved and displays a history graph of the current probe.

Build Quality: I haven't had any issues, it's made of plastic and I treat my kitchen tools usually with care. I can see how it would break if you drop it a lot or hit it with sharper utensils, but any thermometer would seem prone to that. One thing that's nice about the main unit that it isn't just a dumb transmitter, it will also display the temperature and sound an alarm when the settings are reached that I programmed on the iDevice. So when I am right at the grill I still get the full benefit of the device.

Future improvements:

Allow to pair with more than one device I would like to use it with my iPhone and iPad at the same time

Provide thinner probes, these probes like most consumer cooking thermometers are thick and pierce big holes into delicate pieces of meat

Don't reset the meat type after alarm I simply want to push the probe into the next batch of chicken without having to fiddle with the iDevice

Provide a way to store the second probe the first one wraps and clips nicely to the main unit, the second one, well it just lays around.

Get rid of the annoying "an app is available" message on bluetooth connection

Bottom Line: I am really happy with the device, it does what it's supposed to and it does it well. Sure there are possible improvements, but what device is perfect. Is it worth twice as much as a good traditional digital two probe thermometer, probably, but I think it would sell better in the $50 to $75 range, but that's something that may happen once more people start buying it. I feel my wife spent the money well and surprised me with a nice professional gadget.

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I've used various grill thermometers over the years, for the past few years I've been using the Weber wireless unit. I was never satisfied with that, it seemed like it was always losing its signal at an inopportune moment (and I LOVE most Weber products).

When I saw the iGrill become available, I figured it was worth a shot. The $100 price tag concerned me a bit, but this is a case of "ya get what ya pay for". I've only used this thing in the heat of battle a couple of times, but it worked flawlessly. The software is a bit clunky, which I assume will improve over time (I'd give it 5 stars but for that), but all in all, I think this thing is well worth the money. And it definitely has a coolness factor that no other grill thermometer can hope to emulate. Well done! (pun intended).

Cheap Weber 586002 Q 320 Portable 393-Square-Inch 21700-BTU

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Been waiting for awhile to find a good deal on this, but Amazon's got the best price with shipping you are going to find. $0.01, doesn't get much better than that. What surprised the heck out of me was ordering early Thursday morning and finding at my doorstep Friday before noon. FedEx overnight, somebody loves me. This was supposed to ship ground.

I've bought a Weber Q several years ago, so I already know what the fuss is about. Cast iron grill, great cook platform, etc. I've never used a cover, so over the years, I've had to replace burners, etc. as they corroded and degraded. Not Weber's fault, but Weber customer service is the greatest, 24/7 etc., cheerfully helped identify what I needed and sent me the replacement parts.

I've been enviously looking at the 300 and when I saw the specs on the 320, I knew I was looking at my next Weber.

I thought I knew what I was getting, but I was pleasantly surprised at what I unboxed. This one is even cleverer than the original.

Stationary Cart is a well thought out design. Stable, with safety features I've never seen implemented as well. The Tank storage system that locks the propane tank in place so it can't shift and also provides the cart with a counterweight to help prevent tips is a marvel by itself. The collapsible shelf system is elegant and functional while feeling more substantial than the Q200's fixed shelfs.

The slightly larger cooking area is served by split cast iron grills instead of the single grill piece used by the Q200. This actually makes this grill easier to clean and service, while taking nothing away from the cook area. A stainless steel warming rack is a nice place to put up food from the grill surface. Just sits there but is totally substantial and stable.

A second burning tube, stainless steel to prevent rusting out provides the additional heat and controls to bring the grill up to the temperatures I need to cook in colder weather. 40degrees last night, and the grill still heated up to over 400 degrees in about 5 minutes.

Thermostat is simple, and will be easy to replace in the event of breakage or failure. This has an integral BBQ light that has a sensor that automatically turns it off when the lid is lowered. Very cool.

I have never been satisfied with the old style igniter on the previous Q models. The Q320 now has a electronic igniter that works great. Uses a AAA battery. Press a button and poof. Weber's lit. The outer burner ignites the center burner automatically.

Assembly was easy with two of us, but this could have been assembled easily by one person. Directions could have been better, but pictures worked fine.

Food tastes great. Looking foward to putting through it's paces this summer.

Already bought my grill cover. This time I don't plan on abusing Weber Customer service as much .

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I've owned every type of BBQ grill over my 70+ years. The Weber Q320 is the best of the lot. I switched from charcoal to gas grills about 35 years ago because gas grills are so much less trouble. The one thing I liked about charcoal grills is the flavor derived from the smoke formed when juices dripped onto the hot coals. Early gas grills I owned duplicatd that effect with lava rocks. But lava rocks were different sizes and sometimes fell through the supporting grate. Then ceramic briquettes became available. They were standard in size and easy to form into a pattern to catch the drippings. But ceramic does deteriorate over time so it wasn't a perfect solution.

I believe Weber was the first, or among the first, to provide "flavor bars" metal, triangular bars to replace lava rocks and ceramic briquettes. Flavor bars worked well for me for many years. Their disadvantages were that they did eventually rust out, but they did last a long time; and to clean the bottom of the grill occasionally, they had to all be removed.

The Weber Q320 uses no devices to create smoke from the juices. It has an open area under the grill surface so juices drip in three places: onto the burners, through the opening in the bottom into an aluminum drip pan, or onto the bottom of the grill enclosure.

I've found no noticeable difference in the taste of foods and the lack of the smoke is probably healthier since smoke must be loaded with all sorts of nasty things that are produced when things are burned.

The cast iron grill surface is terrific in several ways. Unlike stainless or porcelain covered grates, the cast iron grill has no wide open spaces for food to fall through. You can grill hotdogs in any direction without worrying about them slipping through. I've sliced various vegetables into 1/2 inch slices and they cook nicely on the cast iron grill without any worry of losing any. Potatoes, zucchini, summer squash, onions, carrots, etc. Spray some olive oil on them and put them on the grill to cook. Delicious!!

Meat gets the nice grill stripes that somehow enhances appreciation of the grilling experience. I've found that leaving the burners set to medium for most items produces the best results. The thermometer in the hood gives a nice correlation between your burner control settings and the heat being produced. I try to open the hood just once to turn the items at the halfway point. One nice feature is that by looking at the grill from either end, you can see inside the unit without opening the hood, so if you happen to get a flameup, you can see it and take action. Of course, with no rocks, briquettes or flavor bars, the chance for flameups is greatly reduced.

I sometimes grill in the evening and having the handle light is a nice feature. Where I grill in the winter, I have no overhead light so I have to hang something there. I haven't yet used the Q320 in winter, but the light will save me the trouble of hanging a light nearby.

Finally, I leave my grill outside all the time. The premium cover provides good protection, but one of the reasons I really like the Q320 is all the plastic used in the stand it won't corrode or rust.

This is the grill I've been waiting for. Maybe some time, some one may develop a better one, but I don't see how the Weber Q320 can be improved.

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Originally planned on gettin' the Weber Summit S-320 but at $980 (the cost of livin' in paradise), it was pricey enough to give pause. Decided on the Q 300 when I realized that I would only be cookin' for a dozen at most. Locally, the Q 300 was priced at $377. When I discovered that Amazon had the upgraded 300 series for $18 less, I jumped at the opportunity. And $0.01 shipping 2 day FedEx no less made it a sweeter deal.

This compact grill heats faster and cooks better than any $300 big box model, even if said model is rated at > 40,000 btu and the Q 320 is "only" 21,700 btu. Sears steaks and veges like no one's business and also does great roasting with the burners turned down. A snap to assemble (no cussing required) and also pleasing to the eye.

If you're looking for your 1st grill, get the Q 320. If you're looking for a replacement grill, get the Q 320. If don't need a grill but have $359.01 lying around, get the Q 320.

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I just received my grill so this is not a performance review. For a performance review, check out the many positive reviews on the Q300 model. When I was reading the reviews on the Q300, people loved it. But a few mentioned that they would like a warming shelf, electronic ignition, or light. The great thing about Weber is that they quickly responded by adding those features to the Q320. I liked what I heard about the Q300, so with the improvements, I decided to move up. I put it together in about an hour using the easy to follow instructions. I look forward to a great grilling experience when the weather gets a little warmer. An update: I have now used the grill a few times and it is as good as others have reported the Q300 to be. I really like the electronic ignition. Turn on the gas, push the button, click, click, and you're in business. It heats up fast and leaves great grill marks. I also like the grill cover. It's designed for the Q300 but fits the Q320 just fine, in case you wondered.

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Weber once and again. We had a Weber Genesis for nearly 15 years before getting the Q-320. The Genesis was in need of some new parts and as an alternative to some re-build, we instead looked around to see what's available in new grills these days. At first we saw that stores were now carrying bigger and bigger grills and although we have a patio, we did not want a grill that large. Then, we came across the positive reviews on the Weber Q series, looked into these and finally choose the Q-320.

Since we had the Weber Genesis before this, I can offer some comparisons. Simply put, we liked the Genesis and love the Q-320. Though the Q-320 has a bit less cooking area, it is enough for our family. Both the Genesis and Q-320 can take the same fuel tank size (5 gal / 20 lb). I think the Q-320 is more fuel efficient, though I haven't had it long enough to tell for sure. This would make sense because the inside volume of the closed Q-320 is less than that of the Genesis. Also, the Q-320 has only 2 burner tubes (one oval burner plus one in-line burner) instead of 3 in-line burners as in the Genesis has. But, the Q-320 seems to cook just as fast.

A big benefit of the Q-320 is that is actually browns much better than the Genesis. If you do it right, it can give you those picture-perfect grill stripes on meats with the flavor to go along with them. We also like the added features of the Q-320 including the electronic ignition (quick and quiet compared to the older model's ignition system), and the grill light built into the handle is a really nice touch. Both side surfaces of the Q-320 are available as tables because they are flat surfaces vs. on the Genesis where one surface had 3 burner knobs on top so only one surface was available as a table. The Q-320's burner knobs are front-mounted, larger and easier to turn.

And yes, the Q-320 actually looks quite nice!. It is clear that someone put design thought into it. You might or might not appreciate the Q-320's use of plastics in some parts (such as legs, side tables and handle). But, for instance, the thin plastic "tank skirt" helps to hide the tank from front view and is also is functional because it can help shade the tank from the sun depending on grill position.

Mobility is one area where the Genesis was a bit more convenient: Although the Genesis is larger, the weight of its fuel-tank weight actually helps provide some lift when you want to roll it. That is because the Genesis tank is mounted opposite the far axle from the handles that you must lift to roll it. However, on the Q-320, the tank is centered between its two axles. So, when rolling the Q-320, you lift more of the tank weight. Also, it seems that the Q-320's smaller size permits less "kick" space during movement, and that its plastic body can flex somewhat when moving it with a full fuel tank. On the other hand, since the tank weight is centered, a plus for the Q-320 is that I do not get the feeling that I might accidentally "up-end" it while moving it.

Assembling the Q-320 took me an hour or two, and I had no difficulties with it. For many of the connections involved, it is quite literally, a "snap".

Overall, we really like the Q-320. It is does a great cooking job, is a compact size, has a pleasing visual design and hopefully will even save some fuel.

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I use this to hold my Hibachi Marsh Allen 30052 Cast Iron Hibachi 10 by 18-Inch Charcoal Grill. It fits perfectly. Yes, the stand could be more sturdily built, but as long as you don't have to move it around, it's ok. At least it's light weight and folds up and stores very well. I got tired of leaning over to grill. I know this stand is made for gas grills, but it works just fine for my charcoal hibachi.

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I have been using this table/stand for 10 years. It is so convenient for picnics and RV'ing I even use it with a campstove. It works well for portable grills too. Takes up very little space in the trunk of your car or even the back seat. Still looks as good as the day I bought it.

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This stand does the job but is a little flimsy. It has a tendancy to wobble when one brushes off the grate so have to be careful not to upset it. I have a Weber go anywhere grill and the legs fall thru the top of the stand unless I sit it on sideways. Might be a little overpriced too. But could not find one better.

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Well, I don't understand some of the negative comments about the Camco 57321 Universal BBQ/Appliance Stand, especially one that says it's "really flimsy" and another one that claims it "was a little hard to put together".

The one I received was NOT flimsy, Sure, it wobbles a little from side-to-side, but it's plenty stable for practically any small table-top grill.

Also, the one I received did not need to be "put together". All I had to do was unfold it and make sure that the cross pieces were firmly inserted in the the "loops" on the front edge of the top and the lower shelf.

BTW, Wedging a dowel or a piece of aluminum rod between the cross pieces on the legs, will prevent the stand from closing when it's being moved. You could also use pliers to close the open loops, but then you wouldn't be able to fold it up for storage.

IMO, this is a well-made stand, perfect for any small grill or other light-weight use. Mine has no loose rungs or other flaws, and the black powder coated finish should last for many years.

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It was a little hard to put together but with my husband's help it's great. Very sturdy. Holds the table top BBQ quite well.

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Looked everywhere for these after having cedar planked dishes in restaurants. Could only find them on the internet. Cooked chicken on them and it was delicious. Thanks!

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The title of the listing DOES NOT say there are 10 planks in the package. Look closely and you'll see "Item model number: KWP10"

Yes, it would help if they stated that there are only two, but don't say it's misleading because you didn't notice it or rushed.

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Very Misleading! There are only 2 planks in the package. The description leads you to believe that there are 10. I only bought these because it seemed like a great deal. They are much cheaper localy.

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Missed the quantity thought I was getting 10 but only got 2. My bad I over looked that. Quality of boards is poor at best both having very large knots. Would not recommend them to anybody. Buyer beware, take time and read very carefully. Which I will do from this point forward.

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Big knot hole in the wood and now i need to go out this weekend and buy locally. Very disapointed in the qc

Reviews of Weber 7537 Stainless Steel Flavorizer Bars

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First, let me state that I (usually) love Weber products. When I was a younger and broke, one of the 'symbols of affluence' for me was to be able to afford a Weber grill. At the time, they were (for me) a high priced status symbol, i.e.: they weren't 'some piece of crap made in China that you'd have to replace in 3-5 years'.

I now own a Weber 'Genesis Silver A' gas grill (that needs to have the frame rebuilt because of rusting issues), a Weber 22.5" One Touch Silver, and a Weber 18.5" Smokey Mountain Cooker. I use them all regularly. As a welder and metal fabricator, I can now clearly see where the weaknesses are in their products.

I bought a set of these to replace my grill's original bars thinking that the stainless steel wouldn't rust; that they would last longer than the original ceramic coated ones. I was wrong.

Weber products are, usually, very well designed and made, but with them recently shifting their production overseas (read: East Asia / China) and as a result of their attempt to lower corporate costs by using low grade materials and cheap labor, their products simply don't last as long as they could / should. This makes me sad.

As a result of Weber's attempt to lower costs, they are using CRAP materials. The stainless steel that they use in their flavorizer bars is the lowest quality stainless steel available. I read in the review by 'N. Krumpe' stating that a Weber rep actually told him that a 'flavorizer bar will rust within the first year...'

Yes, they will. If they are made out of crap, cheap, low-grade stainless steel.

OK, enough ranting.

Don't waste your money.

Weber makes their stainless flavorizer bars out of the lowest grade stainless steel available and they will rust, which means you'll be replacing them again in a few years. If you have complaints and call Weber about it, you'll be told (aka: 'spin') that it's normal (yes, it is normal for crap stainless to rust under heat; but not good stainless) and that you should just be quiet about it.

Bottom Line: Don't waste your money on these.

If you need replacement parts for your Weber grill, search the internet for high grade stainless parts or search out a fabricator that will use grade 304 stainless or better and have the parts custom made.

Or, if you're really a stickler for quality and are willing to pay for it, get a Viking Outdoor Grill. Their products are 'upscale' and the quality is spectacular.

And the answer is 'no'. Not an employee, not a shareholder. Nada. Just a fan of great stuff.

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Like other reviewers, I purchased these stainless steel flavorizer bars to replace my rusted enameled bars. After two years of average use (grilling once a week or so during the summer), as I was cleaning my grill I realized that these stainless steel bars are rusty...quite rusty, on both the top and bottom.

I was surprised, so I contacted Weber customer service about the rust on the stainless steel bars. They explained, and I quote:

"The flavorizer bars will rust within the first year of use. This is normal due to the amount of abuse they take protecting the burner tubes. We recommend that you replace the bars once they break or fall apart. I would suggest rotating the bars for a longer longevity."

Fine. No problem. Based on Weber's recommendation, I assume the flavorizer bars are still doing their job, even if rusty. However, I now believe I was too hasty in replacing my old bars. And, when it's time to replace the stainless steel bars, I may just replace them with the less expensive porcelain enameled bars.

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These are not cheap, but they are very heavy and will last a long time.

A little tip while replacing my old ones, I noticed that only one was really worn, the other four were in good shape; so rotating the most worn bar to a different position (before significant wear) would enable the set to last longer.

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Saw some of these in the local hardware store.

Figured I'd see if I could find some for less online.

Just on a lark, thought I'd check Craigs List. Turned out there was a guy in the San Francisco Bay area making them out of heavier gauge stainless than these and selling for half the price. (He takes credit cards and will ship them.)

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I just got my stainless steel flavorizer bars through craigslist, like another reviewer suggested. If you go to craigslist (for San Francisco area), you'll find this email: sale-xxppw-2368277637@craigslist.org. I sent my email, and got my bars a couple of days later. Fulfillment was almost instantaneous. $28 + $9 shipping. The gauge of stainless steel is also slightly thicker than the standard. Can't do much better than that. It's great to find someone willing to provide replacement parts where you aren't getting taken advantage of by a manufacturer.

Discount King Kooker 10560HC 2 in 1 Portable Propane Outdoor Cooker Package

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For boiling and steaming, it worked great. I thought it would also do for deep-frying but not so according to the directions. I am told that the two flame attachments are too hot to heat the oils.

I think the description of this item should be very clear about "not to be used to deep-fry turkeys".

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Brinkmann 812-3301-1 Professional Series Temperature Gauge Review

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The accuracy seems close enough to true. I have used it once with gret results. it was very easily installed.

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as other reviewers have said, description is not enough to tell you if it will fit your grill. it is clearly NOT designed for the smoke'n grill. temp gauge in the smok'n grill is a clip in model. this is a HUGE screw in model. need a VERY large hole in order to screw it in. I'm sure I'll find a way to adapt it, but that's not what I had in mind. look elsewhere if you have the smoke'n grill model, unless you are very handy...three stars only because I assume it works the way it's supposed to, and the dial info. provided is exactly what I'm looking for. will update if that's not the case.

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This would not fit my unit, not enough information as to the size whole that the unit needed for fit

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Well constructed temperature gage that should provide years of use. Installation was accomplished in a few minutes.Constructed of stainless steel. Would recommend purchase to anyone wanting a quality gage.

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I was very happy with the quality of this item. It doesn't fit in the hole in my grill-top, but I'm sure a hardware store has the accessories needed to make this happen. Very happy indeed!!

Review of Char-Broil Universal Electronic Igniter Kit

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I purchased this unit to replace a faulty ignition system on a low-end Charbroil grill that I received second hand from a friend. When I received the grill, the old ignition button was not sparking, due to corroded terminals. I wanted an electronic ignition ever since seeing one for the first time.

When I received the ignition kit, I was surprised at the weight. It was heavier than expected, implying that the ignition coil inside is rather large. This definitely gives the impression that it should last quite a while. The kit also included several cables to accommodate a grill with several burners. I decided to test the ignition system before proceeding to retrofit my old grill. The unit requires 1 "AA" battery, which is not included in the kit. I installed the battery, pushed the button and got a satisfying arc across two sets of terminals. I was ready to begin installation.

If you are installing this in a grill that previously had a manual ignition switch, the diameter of the hole is probably too small on the panel. You will likely need a drill with an appropriately sized bit to enlarge the existing hole. Also, you will likely need to install a ground wire (included in the kit) on a preexisting screw on the panel. The final step involves connecting to the electrode near the burner. Depending on the electrode, the terminal may not attach properly to one of the included cables. My electrode had a thin connector, so I crimped the terminal on the cable to fit snugly.

I have enjoyed using this electronic ignition system on my old grill, and hope this helps anyone wanting to retrofit their old grill.

Pros:

-Seemingly well built electronic components.

-Includes replacement leads for different grills.

-Clear instructions in English as well as Spanish.

-Easy to use and install.

Cons:

-No "AA" battery included.

-No way to "cap off" unused terminals. They arc whenever the system is used. Not much of a problem, unless there is a gas leak.

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Apparently, the kit assumes you already have the little porcelain sleeve thingy and the means to attach the igniter to the the gas tube. Because if you let the bare wire anywhere near the flame of course it catches fire and melts. Have not figured out a solution to that little challenge yet

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I have a Char-Broil 4 burner with side burner, model 463440109. The ignitor failed so I ordered this "Universal" electronic ignition kit thinking that "Universal" meant that it fit all Char-Broil grills. Well, it does not! It was 1/8" larger in diameter than the existing hole and there was not enough room to fit behind the hole. Rather than go though the hassle of sending it back and waiting for another one, I attached it to a wood block behind the hole with double stick foam. It works fine, just a little out of place. There was nothing in the description or specs that said that it may not fit all grills, or only grills made after a specific date.

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I had my ignition kit fail in my char-broil I looked in the manual and the part # they gave me was going to be around 40 bucks. I decided to give this one a try and was happy I did only difference with this one is the push cap is black. Work's great and for 13 bucks you cant beat it!

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I found that I did not need to drill a larger hole in my grill. The original igniter was part of a larger cylander that is almost the same diameter as this new upgrade electronic igniter. So it fit in with only moderate work to enlarge the existing hole. Once in place, however, no sparks came out to light the gas; so I added a ground wire as suggested. BUT IT STILL DID NOT SPARK. THAT was when I realized grease buildup had so covered the igniter that it was in essence INSULATED by the grease. So I cleaned the entire lower interior with no-fumes Easy Off oven cleaner and then sprayed it clean with my garden hose. VOILA! It works better than ever!

Reviews of Smokin-It Model #1 Electric Smoker

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Being a resident of the Luling/Lockhart BBQ mecca of central Texas, I can drive or walk to some of the top BBQ joints in the state. Kreuz's, Luling City Market, Smitty's, etc. are just a hop, skip and a jump away. It's not uncommon to see a $40,000 truck pulling a goodness knows how many $ custom smoker behind it with a crew off to a cook-off. This is serious stuff here.

I was a little skeptical that a $249 electic smoker from Ohio would be able to cut the mustard around these parts. I mean, really would a little smoker that you plug it really make a decent brisket when you really need a 10,000 pound steel behemoth and years of secret BBQ experience (or a least that's what everyone is told)? But hey, what the heck, I can always use it for a heater in the garage if it doesn't work, right?

A $20, 11.5 pound brisket, rubbed down the night before, and a few hickory chunks proved that this little baby it a GIANT KILLER! I smoked it 10 hours at about 210 degrees (I checked the rack temp. with an oven thermometer and it was right on), it was full of smoke, juicy, and wonderful. All I did was replenish the wood a couple of times during the day, and leave it alone otherwise. That's it. So, I can now make a central Texas caliber brisket for about $1.70 a pound instead of the $9+ at the BBQ joints. (Hint: get a packer cut brisket and put the fat side towards the top of the smoker)

O.K. Ohio, you did it again. You sent the "twin sisters" cannons to Sam Houston at the Battle of San Jacinto in 1836. 170+ years later you did it again with the Smokin-it!

VIVA BBQ!

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UPDATE: May 27, 2011, well it has been nearly a year of ownership and I am still IN LOVE with this smoker.. what a gem. It sat out side with its cover over the winter months. and was just as nice and PRETTY as the day it arrived. Many happy meals have been made with this little guy and I can't encourage you enough, if you want a NO FUSS EASY way to get amazing smoked food.. Here is the jewel for you.... May a wonderful smoked ham for the Holidays that was to die for.... NEVER HAVE I HAD A BETTER HAM IN MY LIFE... leaned how to make Pastrami ( amazingly easy to do ) and am now trying smoked Meatloaf and veggies... I have to add the seller is WONDERFUL. and so helpful and honest.. Great doing business with you.!!!!!!

....Buy it you will LOVE it as well......

Please see pic of my FIRST adventure in smoking up aboveIsn't it gorgeous? That is not burnt but the WONDERFUL Slightly crisp Bark all smokers Rave about.

Makes your mouth water I bet?

.. Wow.. can I say it was a success right out of the gate ? YES !!

What a wonderful experience..

Lets say I was hopeful but you never know when purchasing online.well this little unit is built like a tank..Strong, well made and I love the little wheels..The thing allows me to spin it as easily as a TOP.. makes moving it to exactly the right spot and then put away with ease.. Clean up is simple and that just adds to the joy of owning and using this little smoker.

It locks easily and it gets warm but NOT burning hot so if someone accidentally touches it .. No hospital visit will be needed.

Well I was raving so much about to my cousin from NJ..I sent her the site and she looked over the site and the video's on the website and ordered one asap. She said this was exactly what she was looking for as she had always wanted a smoker but didn't want one of the big ole tanks. She like me has a large patio so this will work well for us.

Well this unit arrived right on time. Well packed and with plenty of wood to get you started. Thank YOU for that

Set up ? what set up .. twist the little wheels on and use the ENCLOSED wrench to tighten; take out the packing material.. and you are SET.I followed the direction for curing the unit..That was the hard part WAITING For the hours to pass until I could start cooking.

The unit makes plenty of smoke but you are NOT sitting in a smoke bomb while you wait.. just the pleasant smell of wood burning much like a fireplace. A steady sm stream of white smoke coming out the top.

I LOVE that not only the racks but the wall hangers come out to Clean in the dishwasher... nice design.

I see many pleasant meals coming out of my little Silver Bullet... LOVE IT>>>>>>>>>

You won't be sorry ordering this unit if you , like me didn't want one of the ugly tanks sitting around. One happy camper here.

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I find the smoke flavor is delicious. I am very pleased with the ease of cooking. Not having to stand over the meat while it cooks.

Unfairly I previously said this smoker gave the meat a "BITTER TASTE". It was our fault for using far TOO MUCH WOOD!!!!!

I APOLOGIZE to the manufacters.

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My husband has a friend who bought one of these smokers and showed my husband his secret recipe for seasoning. I got home one day and my husband said I have to have this smoker, how do you use paypal? We found the website and I suggested he purchase through AMAZON because AMAZON is great about refunds. We ordered it online. The price was the same on AMAZON as the SMOKIN-IT website. Shipping was within $5 but since I was not familiar with the company I chose to buy safe. Let me tell you. The item came quickly and was in perfect condition. My husband had it ready in a snap. We received a hand written Thank you from the Owner and I thought that was great. This smoker may look small but it is perfect. You can get alot of meat in it. It has two racks. We took an old cookie sheet and put it on the ground under the smoker to catch juice drippings. It is electric and thats why my husband wanted it. We have the old kind of smoker that takes forever. We smoked two chickens already and it took around 4 hours. We have only used the smoker once. The chickens were great. We are so happy and will suggest it to others. It is easy to move around. It has casters and lifting it is not bad either. The manufacturer of this product takes alot of pride in his smoker. I bought my husband the book Smoke & Spice Cooking with Smoke, the Real Way to Barbecue. The recipes look great. Our next smoke will be ribs then I want to try a ham....You won't be disappointed!!

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I received my Smokin-It Model 1 a few days ago, and just smoked my first pork loin in it last night. It was excellent!

I was wanting something simple... I simply don't have the time, nor want to put the time into nursing a traditional smoker along to maintain proper heat levels and air flow, etc. I knew the hassle associated with that would soon make the smoker a yard ornament. So I considered a propane smoker, since they are cheaper than the electric, and could be used in remote camping situations. After talking to a heavy-set sales person at a smoker store (never trust a skinny cook), I decided to go electric mostly because anything that goes into the smoker (i.e. gas residual emissions... which are minimal, but still present) will go in the food.

After deciding on electric, I started researching and looked at several brands of electric smokers. The common complaint was the heating element. On some, the element was not replaceable. On some, it was WAY difficult and somewhat expensive to replace the element. As the part which is most likely to fail, I found this to be just plain stupid. Poor design work and forethought. Then I found the Smokin-It Model 1 and the Smokin Tex 1100. These two had the simplicity I was wanting (plug it in, put wood in it, foil lower parts for cleanliness, put meat in, set temp, wait, eat). There is no remote heat sensor, nor is there any digital board. Just a plug in and a knob. The heating element is easily replaceable, and costs a whopping $20 directly from Smokin It! Additionally, with the insulated sides and back, I don't have to worry about my kids or dogs bumping up against a scorching smoker. It is warm to the touch on the top, but no chance of burning yourself or others. The all stainless construction looks very well done. Clean fit on everything, nothing askew. There are two drain holes. One inside the unit, and one just in front of the door, where there is a small catchment for any juices dripping from the door. All of that goes into a deep stainless tray that slides under the unit. I don't see how you could make a mess with this smoker. I used it right on my porch, with no drops or stains!

I decided on the Smokin It over the Smokin Tex due to the cost, and having casters included. Frankly, I really wanted to go with the Tex, being in Texas, but offering less and charging $100 more didn't seem to wise. SO, the Smokin It was the choice.

I seasoned it as instructed, with the hickory chunks included, and then smoked a nice Pork Loin the next day. It wasn't dry like pork can get when smoked mostly because I put pineapple rings on top and a small tray of pineapple juice down by the wood box. It uses a surprisingly small amount of wood! For this one, I used Mesquite, and some Cherry Wood Chips. The pineapple rings tasted great as well!

I do recommend getting a few accessories directly from Smokin It (since they are not offered on Amazon). The wood chip liner is great for the wood box. You can use small chips instead of chunks. Also, I ordered a seafood tray, which has a finer mesh. I also recommend getting a smoker/grill wireless temp gauge. I got one at Target for less than $20. I can check the meat temp without opening the door. AND, if it breaks, I don't have to fix my entire smoker!

The shipping on both the smoker and accessories was VERY fast, and packaged well so no damage.

If you are considering purchasing a smoker, especially an electric, you should definitely put Smokin It in the mix. I believe it was definitely worth the money! Well thought out, easily and cheaply repaired for the long haul, simple to use, efficient, safe, and oh-so-tasty results!

**** UPDATE 5 MONTHS IN ****

I LOVE THIS SMOKER! Because it is so easy to use, I use it ALL THE TIME! It does great! So simple... so low effort! Just fire and forget! No problems, just tasty goodness! Ribs, Brisket, Stuffed Jalapeños, Stuffed Poblanos, Hams, Turkeys, Chickens, Armadillo Eggs (bacon wrapped around sausage stuffed with cream cheese and jalapeños), Pork Loin, EVERYTHING COMES OUT GREAT!

And I use it so often because I don't have to worry about nursing temperature or air flow or smoke flow or wood amount, etc. Just put wood in it, foil the bottom and the woodbox, and turn it on to the temp you want. BAM! DONE!

Well made product!

**** UPDATE August 2012 18 MONTHS IN ****

The smoker is wonderful. No problems. No issues. No weak points. It just works and works well. I line the bottom of the box and the top of the woodbox with foil and clean the racks, and that is all. This is one of the best purchases I have made EVER. It just does its job without complaint. I do recommend getting one accessory from Smokin-It the woodchip grate for inside the woodbox. I bought one, and it keeps ash and smaller chips from falling through into the burner area. Cheap purchase and worth it.

I recently helped a friend with their wedding food 6 LARGE briskets. So, for 6 nights straight the little smoker did its all to get all the briskets ready for the reception. Cut the briskets in 1/2, marinate them in Cherry Dr. Pepper for 24 hours, throw them on the smoker with the fat side up. Repeat the process every night for a week. I have received a wealth of compliments on the meat.

If you are looking for an electric smoker you don't have to nurse along all night. Stop here and click "add to cart". I can't imagine you would be disappointed. I'm a fan.

Reviews of Weber 7452 Premium Kettle Cover, Fits 18-1/2-Inch Charcoal Grills

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This 7452 cover was listed on Amazon web site as "Frequently bought together" with the 721001 smoker and the 7416 Chimney starter, so I bought the three items. When I received the smoker, it already included the smoker cover, so now I have two.

It is a really nice customed fitted cover. It will probably last forever, especially since I now own two. Ha!

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Very nice cover. I live in the northwest where this see's a lot of rain and it holds up fine and looks like a champ.

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Well fitting,sturdy material. I like that it does not go to the ground-makes for easier wheeling and I suppose better airflow underneath to prevent corrosion. I expect it to hold up well in the winter because the material is superior to other covers I have owned.

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This thing like most Weber covers will tend to last longer than the its grill counterpart. This cover provides ample protection against the elements if you remember to use it(I've always been afraid the grill is too hot, then I fall asleep on the couch, then the rain comes, then I've gotta wait for the cover to dry out to throw it on top). It allows for the tool holder to fit easily under it. Overall, some covers are a pain in the butt to get on, this one is not, I kind of flip it up and get it to parachute and pull it down over it, easy peasy lemon squeezy.

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The Weber cover was free of defects: no holes, rips or tears. The first few time putting the cover on were sort of difficult due to the newness of the item. The elastic band at the bottom needs break in time to easily get the cover on and off the grill. Keep in mind it ought to be tight to prevent the wind from getting up under it and blowing it off the grill.

Reviews of GrillPro 11051 Universal Fit Propane Tank Adaptor

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I had one of these adaptors at home but lost it. I think I left it on a old tank that was discarded. I couldn't find one locally. I was told by all hardware stores (Lowe's, Home Depot, True Value etc) that they could not longer get these adaptors. Amazon had the best price and availability. This one cost a little more than I previously paid but is exactly what I needed to adapt "old" style 20 lb propane tanks to the new style fittings. The old tanks can't be refilled but I have 3 that are still full to get rid of.

If you're in the same situation I was, this will do the job.

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This review is for the GrillPro 11051 Universal Fit Propane Tank Adaptor, AISN B0029T5U0A.

First some terminology. There are two types of fittings on LP tanks used in RVs and gas grills, POL (Prest-o-Lite) and Acme (OPD). The old-style POL fittings have left-hand threads and tank valves will allow gas to escape if the valve is opened with nothing attached. POL fittings are almost always attached with a wrench. The newer Acme fittings have larger threads and are attached by hand. Tanks with Acme fittings do not allow gas to escape unless something is attached to the valve. These tanks cannot be over-filled, since there is a float inside to prevent this, hence the alternate designation: OPD (Overfill Prevention Device).

When I read the reviews I was having trouble relating some of the comments to the object pictured. As it turns out, GrillPro ships at least two, and possibly more, different adaptors under this same part number. I ordered three adaptors and received two different kinds. I will post a photo of the two types I received.

The most obvious difference between the two types is that one has a handwheel to attach the adaptor to the female POL fitting and the other requires a wrench (1-1/8"). The handwheel adaptor is made in China and the wrench adaptor is made in Italy. The quality of the Chinese-made adaptor appears to be slightly better than the other, but not enough to matter.

These adaptors have male POL threads on one end and male Acme threads on the other, allowing you to attach an old-style (POL) tank to a new-style (Acme) hose. In keeping with standard practice, both adaptors also have female POL threads inside the Acme end of the fitting, but that feature doesn't matter, since the purpose of the adaptor requires that you are starting with a female POL fitting.

In spite of documentation to the contrary, both fittings are easily removed and can be reused indefinitely.

I am very pleased with the fittings I received and would buy either kind again if I need more. The price is reasonable. If you have an old or large LP tank and you need to use it with the new Acme hose, this adaptor will do the trick very well.

Highly recommended.

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It's a solid piece of brass with one rubber O-ring on it.

I had a 100 lb propane tank that I needed to hook up to a burner. I also use the burner on smaller tanks so I didn't want to wrestle with changing the hose all the time. Now I can just screw the big plastic connector to the 100 lb tank.

A very simple part but a bit of a challenge to track down.

It's not super cheap but it's not over priced.

I had next day shipping and it was here at 2pm the next day.

If I get another 100 lb tank I'm ordering one more.

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I purchased this to use with a Weber Genesis B and some old tanks I have, but found that it didn't work.

It certainly works with the old propane tanks I have, but the adaptor is just a little too short (on the side with the large threads) for the Weber's connector to engage it properly and thus allow the propane to flow.

I either need to find another adaptor, or change the regulator of the Weber...

If it was only about 1/8" longer...

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The adaptor is a good quality brass item with plastic turn knob on one end and a swivel joint in the middle. Pros no tools. Cons moving parts, and plastic. Item works, and price is acceptable for the quality.

Masterbuilt M7p 7-In-1 Smoker & Grill Reviews

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I just bought this for my son-in-law who LOVES to cook and experiment with food and he said its the BEST present he ever got! Now, I think I have to buy one for myself!

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Reviews of Charcoal Companion Cow Corn Holders

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I bought these as a gag gift for a friend whose nickname is Piglet. When they arrived, I was quite surprised by how sturdy they are. I was very impressed by their quality and durability. I may purchase another animal cornholder set for myself because I like these so well.

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It's time to shop for Christmas. My sister has a pig motif in her kitchen. We both cook from scratch, grow a garden, and grill outside. Corn on the cob is served often at our home. I had some shaped as a cob, with one pointed blade like a long stick pin. The corn cob rolled, making buttering a chore. I am so happy I found these useful little holders. I inspected the Charcoal Companion Pig Corn Holders and found them cute pigs, large enough to hold easily, and with two blades for piercing the cob. No more rolling corn when trying to butter the cob. I also liked that they were packed in four, I might come for dinner.

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A real fun accessory for your dinning table. I got lots of fun comments.

The only small negative the cow's horn is in the way when you get to the end of the corn.

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Okay I know these are corn holders and thus must be somewhat sharp to hold the corn, but holy cow these things could be weapons! But they are so cute and I get so many compliments on them that I just put them in a big glass bowl so my guests have plenty of room to reach in and grab a set without stabbing their fingers. (I also bought the cow set and I put them all together it definitely makes a great conversation starter!)

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This item is very cute, easy to use and wash. It is somewhat bulky to store in utensil drawer though and WATCH out for the sharp points when u reach in for them. I still love them!