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I agree entirely with the two other reviewers. This is a great grill, but I would like to add some additional comments. I have rated this only 4 stars because of some assembly issues (see below) and because it is not quite as good as a dedicated smoker (such as the Brinkmann Vertical Smoker). However, if you want to be able to both smoke and grill, or if you are not sure you want a smoker (like me) then the Char Griller Smokin Pro with Side Fire Box is for you.

Now that I tried Smoking, I am a convert. It does take longer than grilling, but this slow cooking process results in more flavor and more juicy meat. The intensity of the smoke flavor is increased by using more wood and reduced by using more charcoal. For instance, an all-charcoal smoke will result in subtle, but pleasant smoke flavor. I find it very easy to control the temperature of the Smokin Pro grill when smoking I add more charcoal or adjust the vents only once per hour. Otherwise, it basically runs itself. Cleanup is easy because the firebox has an ash pan. Furthermore, since smoking is done at lower heat, there is no grease spatter in the cooking chamber. I find it helpful to place a pan directly under the meat to catch all the grease.

ASSEMBLY ISSUES: Assuming that you buy both the Smokin Pro grill and the Side Fire Box, do NOT follow the instructions to first assemble the grill, and then add the fire box. The problem is that installation of the fire box requires punching out a knock-out panel on the side of the grill lower half. Unfortunately, the knock-out panel may not be easy to remove, and this step then will require considerable hammering. This step will be very difficult to do if the grill is already assembled!

INSTEAD, as the first step of assembly, take the lower half of the grill firebox and place it on end with the knock-out panel on top, and the other side on hard ground. Firmly wedge a 2x4 piece of wood between the two sides. This will give firm support to the end of the grill with the knock-out panel. It will help to place the support close to the site of the hammering. Now, follow the firebox assembly instructions to punch out the panel with a hammer and a screwdriver. Use of the 2x4 will prevent damage to the side of the grill body due to hammering. After removing the panel, proceed normally with the assembly of the grill, and finally attachment of the fire box as directed in the instructions.

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Update 7/17/2013: I Moved to Washington state, where Bar-BQ is a verb not a noun, they don't know what a whole brisket is, and hickory is sadly not available; and had to replace the Char-Griller that I sold prior to moving last year. Without hesitation I asked for another one of these for Father's Day. My old one had held up well (with a cover) over eight years. The day I put it together, I indirect grilled a whole Salmon and it turned out fantastic.

It was interesting to see what has changed: They have replaced the flimsy cooking rack in the side box with two hefty cast iron grates, just like those for the main cook surface so quality grilling in the side box is now a real option especially handy when you need two temperatures, or want to direct and indirect grill at the same time. They have included hooks to hang tools from the wood racks which I believe I added myself on the first go-round. Too bad they didn't extend the chimney stack down into the grill body to conserve heat (which seems to be the most common modification done to this rig), but I never found that necessary.

Once again, I love this grill: it has a large cook surface, great temperature control, and is versatile: grill, indirect grill, smoke, rotisserie, more than one style at the same time!

When I see someone's $1,000+ gas rig (usually unused on the back porch) I just smile and think, that guy can't touch my grill marks and I saved enough $$$ for a week in Hawaii! I look forward to many more years of using my Char-Griller, showing Pac Northwesterners what Bar-BQ is all about ... and continuing to watch the Gators pound the Seminoles ;-) (Did you know the PAC-10 plays Div-I football too?).

---Original Comment from 2005 (yikes! has it been that long already?!)----

Got this smoker/grill for father's day, and I love it. It is versatile you can grill, roast, and BBQ (smoke) equally well with it. Whereas some other smokers will only BBQ. This is the first smoker that I've owned and it is easy to control the temperature. I've made some fantastic BBQ chicken and brisket. I'll be making more.

good value. Large grilling area.

The fire grate has 4 height positions to adjust temperature for direct grilling. It's easy to dump out the ashes.

For roasting, there is plenty of room to put a large drip pan on one side. I've roasted some spectacular chicken this way.

For BBQ (smoking) start a fire in the side-firebox, and add a split log or 5-6 wood chunks an hour. I use a remote thermometer to watch the temperature from inside the house. I thought that was ridiculous at first, but when your BBQ-ing a brisket for 12 hrs, it frees you up to make side dishes in the kitchen, or watch the Gators pound the Seminoles, while your cooking. The temperature is easy to control with the vents and the smokestack cover.

shorcomings: assembly is a chore. thinner gauage metal flakes outer paint sooner than a heavier pit would. Thermometer is not especially reliable, but you'll probably want a remote thermometer if you are going to be BBQ-ing for 12 hrs anyway.

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This grill has lots of room to cook. You could easily fit two large turkeys in the spacious interior. Cast iron grates make the cooking more efficient, but you have to take care of them. The fire box gives you the option of cooking with indirect, slow heat. This is the best (and slowest) way to cook ribs and other hunks o' meat. This is a pretty heavy grill, so finding it in your area would save you a bundle on shipping. Overall it is very well made. All I've had to do is touch up the paint with high temp black spray paint.

Using a remote thermometer will give you better results in cooking.

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You can do some modifications on the grill to make it work better. These are inexpensive and there are numerous postings about modifcations and techniques on the BBQ forums.

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You should keep in mind that this is not an expensive grill. It's really pretty darn cheap, so you can't expect a beautiful piece of furniture. So ignore the cosmetic defects. I bought it because other reviews made it sound functional, and that's what I care about. First, regarding the size of the grilling surface: The wire shelf does NOT come with it; it's an accessory for which you pay extra. The actual measurements, done with a measuring stick after assembly are: For the main grill: 19.5"x27"=526.5sq"(3.66sq'), of which only about 337.5sq"(2.34sq') are 100% directly above the coals, but that's still a lot. (As a comparison, a standard Weber 22" grill has about 254sq"(1.77sq') that are 100% directly above the coals.) For the side fire box grill: 14.25"x16.5"=235sq"(1.63sq'), of which about 190sq"(1.32sq') are 100% directly above the coals. We plan to try just the side box for grilling when we're making one meal for just the two of us. (EDIT: We have tried just using the side box for grilling a couple of steaks. It works great for that.)

I'm going to write this review in stages, editing as I go along.

First Stage: Assembly. 3.5 stars.

The manual says you need two people to assemble this grill, but nowhere does it give an instruction that requires two people to carry out. I'm a 65-year-old, retired, pencil-pushing male and I had no trouble building this thing by myself in two hours, from ripping open the box to done. I'd say that a strong woman or a man of average strength would have little trouble with the assembly, from a physical standpoint. One serious tip: Do not try to assemble this thing in the hot sun--the black metal gets finger-burning hot. If you follow the instruction manual carefully, doing things in the order given, you shouldn't have a serious problem--IF you also are mechanically inclined or have good common sense. When you buy this griller-smoker model WITH the side box, there is NO side panel to knock out when attaching the side fire box like that other reviewer had to deal with back in 2006, so follow the directions in order. The difficulty is that the instruction manual usually tells you to use the correct bolt--but sometimes it doesn't. In one place it has you threading a 2-inch spacer onto a 1.5-inch bolt, then putting a nut on the bolt. Can't be done, but that's not a problem because in reality the spacer is shorter than the bolt provided. In another place it eventually becomes clear that the grill has been redesigned since the manual was written and one entire numbered assembly instruction should be ignored. Also, they write as if it doesn't matter which side of each wheel is positioned against the leg, but it does. They tell you to "finger-tighten" the nuts on the bolts until you get it completely assembled, but that's still too tight. You need to put the nuts on "finger-loose" or you'll never get it all together. Then there's the place where the text tells you to position the grill "upright" but what they really mean is "on end." (Fortunately, the picture is correct.) There were no missing parts, in fact there were a few extra nuts and bolts. They say you need only a pair of pliers and a 7/16" nut driver, and that's true, but you might want to replace the pliers with a 7/16" open or closed-end wrench. I also bought the Char-Griller Rotisserie accessory, and that has its own problems with the instruction manual. Mainly: The manual text tells you to put the spit collar on the spit rod, but doesn't say which side facing which way. If you put the collar on the way the manual picture shows, there's nothing to keep the other end of the rotating spit rod from slipping out of the motor housing. It just slides in there, there's no click-fit, so it slides out easily during rotating when you don't want it do. But if you put the collar on the spit rod opposite to the picture, the spit collar's contact with the spit bracket will keep the other end of the spit rod from sliding out of the motor housing. The lid won't close all the way that way, though, until you bend the spit bracket out about a 1/4 inch, which is easy enough to do. Now the spit rod stays rotating inside the motor housing, no slipping out. In the end, patience and good common sense ruled, all of these assembly difficulties were overcome, and these are now all problems of the past.

Second Stage: Seasoning the Grill. 5 stars.

Seasoning according to the directions involves painting all surfaces of the grill interior surfaces with vegetable oil (soy oil) including the grills, grates, ash pans, and inside of the lids. Didn't skip anything. Stoked it up and let it get to about 250 degrees F. I even painted the outside of the grill with the oil as it was heating up, which the manual gives as an option. So, in essence, I oiled up every inch of the metal, inside and out, and let it cook for two hours. The grills seasoned perfectly and the exterior surfaces even look much better. The cosmetic flaws in the paint disappeared with the cooking oil treatment. It was now a beautiful shiny deep black and ready to go.

Third Stage: Direct Grilling. 5 stars.

I butterflied a nearly 5 lb. chicken, marinated it, and put it on the main grill directly over 24 charcoal briquettes and a few pieces of mesquite with the charcoal grate as far down at it would go. I used a Williams-Sonoma remote digital thermometer to monitor the temperature in the thigh meat. When it reached 185 degrees--which took only about a half hour--I took it off. Tender and juicy with a great smokey flavor. Next time I direct-grill a chicken like this, I'll try only 12 charcoal briquettes, and let it cook longer. But I also will be smoking a chicken over indirect heat and will report back on that, too. Other reviewers complained that this thing leaks smoke, but that's not important. (One reviewer--she didn't say what color her hair was--complained that while she was using the grill, the wind blew smoke out of the smoke stack into her face. Guess what the solution to that is. She couldn't.) The lid obviously was never designed to be air tight--I can get all my fingers under the lid at the left end of the barrel when the lid is seated on the bottom. If you open the smoke stack fully, almost all the smoke will pour out of it. If you close off the smoke stack completely, there will be a steady stream of smoke escaping from under the lid. If you think this means your meat isn't getting well smoked, just go over and fling the lid up and then duck because a huge, dense, cloud of smoke will come billowing out at you. That meat is getting drowned in smoke.

Fourth Stage: Indirect Rotisserie Smoking. 5 stars.

I had ordered a second set of forks for the rotisserie, so I was able to smoke two rotisserie chickens at a time. While that was happening, I noticed that I had plenty of room left on the spit for a third chicken, so I ordered a third set of forks. I have since rotisseried three chickens simultaneously over indirect heat (i.e., from coals in the sidebox only)--each chicken marinated differently. However, I noticed that the bird closest to the side box was browning much more quickly, so about half way through I stopped the rotisserie, switched the chickens on the spit, and continued on. They all three came out great in about four hours. Next time I'll try rotissering three chickens over coals directly under them in the main fire box. I shouldn't need to switch the birds on the spit when I do that.

Fifth Stage: Direct grilling, burgers and steaks. 5 stars.

Not much to add here. I put about seven pounds of charcoal briquettes in the main fire box tray, raised the tray as close to the cooking grills as I could get it. (The coals were about two inches away.) I let the grills get good and hot, brushed a little oil on them, and grilled a whole mess of burgers and steaks, with hot dogs around the sides. Everything came out great, very fast, too. Even when my wife and I are alone, we often will grill a few dozen burgers and dogs at once and freeze them. We have charcoal grilled burgers and dogs for months after just heating them up in the microwave.

Sixth Stage: Cleanup. 5 stars.

I don't see how it could be easier. I waited until the grill had cooled then scraped the cooking grills with a wire brush. That took about a minute. The side fire box drawer pulled all the way out for easy dumping of the coals I had used to season the grill. After removing the four main cooking grills, the main charcoal grate lifted right out with the two side handles, and that was just an easy dump, too. On second thought, I think it might be better to scrape the cooking grills with a wire brush while they're still hot. That way you can immediately re-season them with vegetable oil after the wire brush scraping. I'll try that next time. (EDIT: I did try this, and it works well, too.) As far as cleaning up the ashes is concerned, that's very easy, too. Almost all of the ashes in the side fire box will be in the drawer, which slides completely out for dumping. Depending on how heavily you fill the side box with charcoal, there may be some spill-over into the side box itself, outside the drawer. So every few uses you have have to reach in--when it's all cool, of course--and scrape some ash residue out by hand. Pretty much the same applies to ashes in the main fire box, except that there's no drawer. You must remove all four cooking grill sections, then lift out the fire tray and grate. Again, depending on how full you filled it with charcoal, you may have some spill-over ashes that will have to be removed by hand, once they are cool. I found that the easiest way to do this is with a sheet of flexible plastic--one of those thin, flexible plastic cutting "boards" (really more a cutting sheet) works very well, but any thin plastic sheet should work fine, too.

Next stages of this review will include durability, and anything else that occurs to me.

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I purchased one of these Super Pro Grills and the Side Firebox this past week and used it yesterday to make the best pulled pork shoulder I've ever smoked.

The grill was fairly easy to put together, and I was able to do it by myself contrary to the indication on the instructions.

Once we stoked and started it, it proved to be a great buyit was relatively easy to keep a low, constant temperature around 225 degrees, occasionally adding more fuel and wood to the side firebox. It does need to be watched and checked often, but is worth the effort. It retains the smoke well, even though a good amount escapes around the joints, and produced a truly enviable smoke ring on the meat.

The cast iron grates are easy to clean and really make this model superior to anything I've seen in the price range. One caveat is they MUST be cleaned and seasoned properly to ensure they won't rust, but that being said they're amazing. (One good cleaning tip I got from my grandfather, who's an old hat at smoking and grilling, is to place them in a self-cleaning oven on the clean cycle when they get really cruddy, and they come out perfect with the seasoning intact).

I have only one complaint-the first time my husband and I tried to move the grill, both of the included plastic wheels cracked around the axle, making it impossible to use them to roll the grill! I looked back over the instructions, but as I suspected, I had installed the wheels correctly. The grill was not rolled over rough terrain, just down our driveway to the backyard.

We LOVE the grill itself, but need to be able to move it to different locations around the house (backyard for parties, driveway for our use). I contacted Char-Griller about this and they were very helpful, offering to send replacements. However, I think we're going to get a set of sturdier wheels from somewhere else, not relishing the idea of replacing THOSE wheels again.

Overall, this is a great buy, and as an avid griller and smoker I'd recommend it as a great first foray into smoking.

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I used this cover for one full summer and it's now full of snow.

The cover remains flexible right into sub freezing weather so that I can put it on and remove it in the New England snow. Looks nice too.

There is some fading on the top due to the sun.

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This is a very nice cover. The material is water resistant and it has good ventilation so there is less of a problem with moisture under the cover. My only complaint is the elastic cording at the bottom. It makes the cover difficult to put on or remove. It looks like it should have been a draw-string which I would prefer. I am considering modifying mine to make it easier to use.

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I returned the cover because it was not the same as the description. It was supposed to have an adjustable drawstring bottom closure but it was only an elastic bottom. I ordered the correct type directly from the company.

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This cover is of higher quality than the Weber Cover. It fits my smaller weber gas grill and has elastic on the bottom that keeps it secure in wind.

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After having several of those ill fitting vinyl grill covers over the years, the CoverMates Grill cover from the Cover Store is fantastic. The material of construction looks like it will last for quite some time. It fit our new gas grill perfectly which should make it last longer than the last several grills I have owned.

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I LOVE trying new things on the grill. I originally saw a similar item on Sur la Table but they are usually way overpriced. Gave this product a shot and it did the job. I found the design and function to be quality, especially compared to run of the mill bbq accessories I tend to see in most stores. It does a great job of holding the meat together giving it a nice charr. I come from a big Italian family and this product has been a hit.

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I do as much grilling as I can, whenever I can. This seemed like something I had to try. We had a cookout and my wife put together the mix for the meatballs. The kids thought it was hilarious, but they weren't laughing when they were ready. It was easy to use and a big hit. Recommend it for anyone that has fun grilling.

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I like this product because it has a strong construction, decorative wood handle, and a wider mesh design than some I've seem.

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This was a gift for a person who grills year round. They thought at first sight it would not work. But wrong it did!!! They love it and it has been used many times now!!! Even when there is snow on the ground you can have great meatballs from your grill!!! Easy to use and clean.

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Bought this for my husband as a fathers day gift!! It is the best invention ever easy to use and makes the meatballs moist and delicious..

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Plate deflector works great at letting heat circulate in a ceramic BBQ like the big green egg, preventing the fire from directly searing food.

I did a center cut pork roast the other day by placing the plate deflector upside down beneath the grate, placing a drip pan on the plate deflector and slow cooking roast for a few hours--terrif, moist, flavorful. I also smoked a red snapper--great appetizer with horseradish sauce. A duck is coming soon.

In short, the plate deflector is a great tool, transforming your BBQ grill most effectively into a ceramic pot and smoker, which permits a greatly expanded range of flavorful cooking. Useless on gas grills, by the way, which are just bad stoves used outside.

As for pricing, I found a local store that carried the plate deflector plus all sorts of other clay pot bbq stuff below online msrp prices and without shipping charges. Might pay to poke around the nabe....

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Makes a great pizza but I haven't tried anything else yet. Will soon try a large roast. Definitely expands what I can cook!

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I've owned this for a year now. It fits my large BGE perfectly and performs well. Has not cracked or chipped after at least 30 uses. I would definitely buy this again.

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A must have for the Big Green Egg. Quick service and they even sent rub samples to try.

Great value!

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the platesetter is a critical part of the Big Green Egg and I am enjoying learning how to use this device for a wider variety of foods

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I bought this gauge to help prevent running out of propane when a big weekend was in the works, and it worked great for about two weeks.

Then a plastic bushing inside the nozzle broke and fell out, and it could no longer get a gas tight seal to the line going to the grill, making it useless.

Emails to Flame King requesting replacement or assistance were ignored, so customer support gets a one (zero) star rating too.

Flimsy unreliable useless waste of money.

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I got this because every time I use the grill I have this uneasy feeling that I won't have enough to finish what I'm doing, and that in the middle of my barbequeing masterpiece, I have to run to Home Depot and have to get more propane.

Well, no more! This thing is great, and it has an emergency flow controller.

It's very easy to install, with one caveat that you might want to consider before you purchase one. The device itself is about 4 inches long. So if you add it as an intermediary between the tank itself and the hose. Now, if you have a small grill that encloses the tank, this might be a little challenging in repositioning the tank so that you can still close the door(s) to the tank holder. It's not that difficult, but can take a little fiddling. And if your tank is only positionable at a certain way, you may not be able to satisfactorily position the tank so you can close the door with the device installed.

This shouldn't be a big deal in most cases, but I just thought I'd warn ya.

All in all, this is a must-have!

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This product is the best. First, I never have to worry about my grill leaking. This has an automatic shut off if a leak is detected. Second, I will never run out of propane because after each use of my grill I just take a quick look to see if my gas is low.

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It worked fine until the inside spacer broke on its own one day. Then it would not screw on tight enough to keep gas from leaking. Since there are no user replaceable parts, this cheapo plastic washer has caused the whole item to become useless. I have had it less than a year.

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All of the pressure sensing propane guages do not work! Use weight based ones! Physics of propane puts it as a liquid at high pressue the pressure remains nearly constant until all the liquid evaporates which is just a few minutes before you run out of gas.

The weight scale based guages work very well and are an accurate measure of the amount of propane left. Best solution is to have a spare cylinder.

Cheap Dimplex CBQ-120-ELE Portable Convertible PowerChef 216-Square-Inch

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This grill is amazing! Before I had gas powered Weber Q-320 and was very happy with it, but recently gas grills were banned in our community (some changes in Fire department code) and I was in panic how can I live without a grill... I tried many electrical grills a year ago all of them had highest rating in Amazon, and all of them were kind of slow cooking machines, but not a grills...

This grill is the real deal! Truthfully speaking not me, nor my wife cannot find the difference between steaks cooked on gas grill and this electric one. And the greatest thing it has automatic option. I tried pork chops, steaks and always had a perfect result! Vegetables were also great. Highly recommend!

Update on 10/25/2011

After using it about five times the grill electronic stops working, cannot turn it on... Be aware.... Lucky that it is still less than 30 days after I made the purchase, so can return it direct to Amazon and not to deal with manufacturer...

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For grilling accasionally an outdoor grill is just fine. My apartment is wonderful, but no balcony. Propane is a no-no according to fire regulations. Well, I guess you can see where this is heading.

I received my new Dimplex Convertible a couple of weeks ago and have given it a thorough trial, and I feel compelled to express my satisfaction with this unique piece of grilling technology.

I set the onboard computer and prepared my 2 inch NY Strip Steaks purchased at Whole Foods and placed them on the grill. I must add this grill is in my kitchen right by a window with a small two blade window exhaust fan in place. Remember, no flame so no burning or noxious fumes. I grill too often to go to the trouble of outdoor cooking.

Just as advertised the grill beeped and I turned the steaks over and I was really surprised that they looked even better than on fire grills. When finished the grill beeped again and we were ready for the taste test.

My friends, all I can say is.. WOW! This truly produced one the the best grilled steaks I have had and was I delighted. The large burgers, more like Salisbury Steaks, came out juicy and delicious.

Thank you Dimplex and a job well done bringing an extremely handy and unique product to market. Thank you...

If you spend a pretty penny for quality meats and want juicy perfectly grilled food everytime, then the Dimplex PowerChief Convertible will surely satisfy.

Just a note... it is working out perfectly indoors in the kitchen with all smoke going right out the window through the little window fan right behind the grill, and remember the entire heatup and cooking time rarely exceeds 20 to 30 minutes all without flame of excessive external heat.

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It heats up well, is hot enough to cook food as you would expect, leaves grill marks on the food, but none of the smoky taste you would get with charcoal or gas. With charcoal and gas, I never paid much attention to cleaning the grill, and when you do the whole grill piece can be removed, soaked, scrubbed--replaced if really bad. Here the grill is integrally part of the heating elements and so you can't remove and soak it (and of course they caution against hosing it down as that would destroy the electronics). So my solution has been to soak a kitchen towel in soapy water, and put it on the grill once it cools down and let it sit there for an hour or more, and then scrub away as best you can. Unlike gas or charcoal you feel compelled to clean each time, because you don't have the flames (which I assume sterilize the grill.) The drip pan also needs to removed each time and cleaned. It has tiny set screws that hold it in place and need a tiny screwdriver--something you would use on eyeglasses. Why these aren't bigger and something you could just turn with your fingers is a mystery. Also to remove the drip pan, you need to tip the whole thing back and somehow not dump stuff in the drip pan our. Seems like this design could be improved. In the end, the actually grilling quality is much better than I expected from an electric grill--of course I wasn't expecting much.

After all of the above. I'm going to buy another one for my son for a birthday present. So good to know what to expect but I think it is as good as gets for an electric grill

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This grill is simply amazing. The eversear technology does exactly what it says it will and cooks meats with barbecue flavor and grill marks. I am no expert when it comes to cooking a perfect steak, but this grill accomplished it for me with a couple touches of a button. Much easier, faster and better tasting than any other grill I have ever used. I highly recommend this grill to anyone.

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Yes, the taste of charcoal cannot be beat and propane makes cool pyro action BUT I HATE CLEAN UP AND SET UP. Nothing beats my Dimplex. I got it at Wal-**** for $499.99 about a year back and I do find myself using it all the time: Every Sunday for football, 3x a month minimum for dinners, etc. Great item!

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Works perfectly on my Weber Summit S-670 Really simple and easy to clean too. Not sure why Weber doesn't make a grate lifter for their 9mm SS grates, least if they do...I haven't found it and I looked all over their site. Oh well, chalk one up for Fire Magic. Those 9mm thick grates are heavy and when they're dirty...well...they're nasty. Use this and it picks it right up and out and allows you to carry it around easily.

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This product is well made and has flexible pipes. However, it does not fit all grills. If you have one of the older $99 Charbroil grills from Lowes, you will find that more than likely the holes to insert the tubes will be too small. Others have complained about this. I made mine bigger with some tin snips, it mangled the holes but I got the tubes to go through.

Does seem to work fine despite not initially fitting through the holes.

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I bought this CHARBROIL UNIVERSAL burner to replace the burner on my CHARBROIL grill. I guess when I bought it I believed "universal" to mean that it would replace all 17 inch burners...especially CHARBROIL ones, since it is the SAME COMPANY. I was wrong. The venturi pipe is too large to go through the hole in my grill. When I called Charbroil to discuss this with them, they told me that "universal" only means "most." Chances are, this will not fit your grill. Avoid it.

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Mine is not a Char-Broil branded BBQ, so I had my doubts, however it was very easy to assembly and set and works splendid since the very first time. Took me less than 10 minutes since I open the package until I turned it on and only needed a phillips screwdriver. The gas pipes are flexible and can be adjusted in length and can be twisted to reach the gas valves. Only hope it lasts as long as the original burner.

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This most certainly is not "universal" as the advertising and the packaging state. I bought it for my bottom-of-the-line Char-Broil brand grill, so you'd think it would fit its own brand. But the nozzle collars at the end of the flexible tubing coming from the burner will not fit through the diameter of the holes at the bottom of the flame box in order to meet the gas feeder lines coming from below. Just barely so frustrating! Unfortunately, I mangled it too much trying to jerry-rig it to fit, so now I can't even return it. One of the few Amazon products I have purchased over the years that has been mis-represented.

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My 1997 Char-Broil Model 4637633 worked well with this universal burner. The only problem I had was when I attached the igniter assembly to the center of the burner; the mounting holes in the new burner were too large for the #6 pan head screws provided. I substituted some #8 screws I had in stock and the problem was solved.

Burner works well. It does look a bit on the cheap side but certainly was worth the $16 price. Sure there is a 3 year warranty but who is going to pay $10 for shipping these to the factory for warranty service? My old burner (same exact style) lasted about 3 years.

Note that there was a less expensive option available (about $11) for people who didn't feel they needed to replace their flexible venturi tubes. My old tubes were in great shape so I opted to take them off and save for some future day. Unfortunately, although the tubes were in good shape, I found on my old burner that the essential high temperature gaskets between the tubes and the burner were both broken and might not have been gas-tight if I'd been planning to reuse them. My advice is to spend the extra $5 and get the complete $16 replacement kit like I did on this purchase.

Reviews of 25" BBQ Hook Pig Tail Flipper - Left Hand USE

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I've never used it, but was looking through the stuff and the photos are the same for right and left hand use. At least flip the image guys. LOL.

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I ran into these when I was down south a couple of years ago. When I came across one on Amazon I just had to have one. I ordered it, used it and have given a few as gifts.

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Good product and provides enough distance to not receive grill burns. For small grills, the shorter lengths are excellent too. I bought this for my left-handed brother-in-law, but I also bought the right handed one for me.

These Pig Tail flippers are excellent and we use them all the time while grilling outside or indoors.

Excellent product.

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Love it. I was impressed with the size and quality of this and the price is quite reasonable $22 (prime). The thickness of the metal is a good sturdy gauge material. The chimney (part you put the charcoal in) is a good size too...very close to the size as the Weber 7416 Rapidfire Chimney Starter...just a mm or two smaller diameter, which is a bit of a bummer, as I was hoping to be able to use my old Weber starter on top of this, but the diameter of the Weber starter is exactly same size as the burner base, so it's not very stable when you set it on this. Oh well...I might just bend/modify my old Weber starter chimney a bit to make it fit so I can use both during heavy grilling/smoking sessions.

Edited July 6, 2013 used it for the second time on the 4th of July, and the starter melted to the body/canister. Poor design. The starter assembly is all plastic, so it really needs to be shielded/insulated from the heat. And now that my Amazon return/exchange window is closed (ended July 5th), I'm stuck with this thing, and having to light it another way. I even went to the website listed on the box (www.maxbbqusa.com) but it's a fake website. I'll try to contact the seller (Jack's Tool Shed) and see if they want to make things right. I'm pretty disappointed. Buyer beware. I've added some photos of the melted starter.

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For years I used a chimney with newspaper with mixed results. I have used this gas chimney all summer and I love it. Ten minutes from start to cook. Very reliable so far. I am still on my first gas canister after a whole summer of use.

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works perfectly.starts charcol in about 4min. I would recommend it to any one who BBQ's. It's better than using lighter fluid and quicker

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This was a great buy. Every serious grill master should have one. No more fuss with newspaper, wet conditions, and wind. All I have to do is push the starter button and within a few minutes the coals are lit. I know there were negative reviews on the starter button melting but if you follow the directions it will not happen; once the coals are lit (again, no more than a few minutes) turn it off and remove the basket of coals.

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This is only around $5 more than a standard chimney, but the quality is much better. Thicker steel, side air intake holes, nice handle, and a good heat shield.

Only downside, is the wire that goes from the sparker to the burner isn't very heavy nor shielded. The insulation burns off pretty much instantly. Still works, but I worry one day the sparker will stop working. Not a huge deal, but this is a product review. I would still buy it again no problem.

SUNSTONE Vent-L 15-Inch by 6-1/2-Inch Stainless Steel Venting Panel Review

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Its okay, a stainless steel vent, no more no less. I am a little offended about how expensive products are that are related to outdoor kitchens, stainless steel products in particular.

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Appeared to have been dropped, both dented identically on one corner. The finish is also less than the expected quality; brand new, yet had marring in finish.

Because they will be out of sight most of the time, I'm going to keep them rather than deal with replacement. Hats my call, but I'm confident Amazon would make it right if I pressed the issue.

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Some of the best quality outdoor vents you will find on the market. I highly recommend this product to anyone building their own outdoor kitchen.

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Rigid, decent quality. Perfect for outdoor islands. I think you'll enjoy it. Ample screw holes for fastening options. Not much more to say about it.

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Good product. Just what i was looking for to cover my block BBQ vent holes. Just wish it came with the stainless screws.

Review of PayandPack 16 15/16" x 1" MBP 15641 (5-pack) Universal BBQ Barbeque

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Burners are well made and the 5 burner kit is well priced compared to OEM replacement burner cost. These burners make it feasible for replacement as needed since the burners won't last like a cast bronze/stainless burner. I will buy these burners again as needed.

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I have to say that the con to this devices is the spit itself... come on why would make a spit in two pieces attached by a nut that bind the two pieces together ... to me it seems it is the weakest point in the whole device. I broke mine while I was tightening it... luckily I ran out to buy a cheap rotisserie for the 1 piece spit it contained... The spit need to be sturdy and appears to be flimsy... stay away from this one. Char-Broil 2584727 Deluxe Electric Rotisserie

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I wasn't sure about buying this rotisserie after reading other negative reviews and wish I hadn't. It didn't even make it to the grill. The rod comes in 2 parts that have to be screwed in, one into the other, and the threaded end snapped off before it was even tightened down all the way. This is clearly not well-made and I would guess if it had made it into use, something else would have failed later on.

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This item is great!! It installed right on the pre drilled holes on my BBQ and I was off and running! Only drawback is that you have to remove the brackets in order to put your grill back on. I cooked a chicken and it was beautiful!

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Excellent addition to the Char-broil Gas Grill. Indispensible for small roasts or a turkey breast.......

Slow heat..150-180 for an hour or so....turn to high for last 25 min of cooking time.....delicious!!!!!!!!!!

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Overall I was happy with the product. However, the 2-piece spit broke during the 3rd use. Fortunately the chicken was done when the spit broke so I didn't lose a meal. This wasn't really unexpected since I've owned a rotisseri with this type of spit before. I'll have to get a 1-piece spit in order to be able to use it again. Other than that, the motor is strong enough to turn an 8 pound chicken so so all in all it's a good product.